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shafique

Yes, in this case it is a genuine, serious question. In which country/society to women dress provocatively and then do not expect to be chatted up, attract the attention of etc of the opposite s.ex? Eh says it is countries where it is illegal to proposition a lady. Why would a society make something...

shafique

Is that a country?

What a strange way to not answer a simple question.

Yet again we seem to reach a point where a claim is made and eh can't back it up. Sigh.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Instead of cutting and pasting from random blog sites, why don't you address the outstanding questions that you are avoiding. I do actually want to know why you confused a racist mob with what you posted in the thread title - and more relevantly, all the questions about the Bible that you refuse to ...

shafique

I didn't know this supposed knowledge is such a big secret that you won't tell me the names of the countries/societies where eh thinks that a woman dressing provocatively does not expect to attact attention, be chatted up or propositioned by men? Is it in all countries where lesbianism is legal? Do ...

shafique

(I assume Javed endorses the articles if they are published on his website) Why go around the houses? The second link has his views on the blasphemy laws. You asked for a prominent Pakistani scholar/cleric who spoke out against the persecution - QED. You really haven't had a good time lately with u...

shafique

How in hell did you get the idea that women who dress according to you provocative in general want to be propositioned? What or who gave you that idea? You are confusing with me with event horizon. He's the one who claimed. Not if those women are from societies where propositioning women is frowned...

shafique

Fail.

He not only opposes the blasphemy laws, but says they are unIslamic. Did you not read the Guardian article?

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

I don't know anyone in my community (society) who proposition people. As you live in America - is it your contention that there are no American ladies who dress provocatively (let's take for example the American ladies who Chappelle says wear the 'hoe's uniform') and expect to be chatted up by men?...

shafique

You are the one that is having your customary failure of comprehension. Javed is clearly stating that only in cases where blasphemy results in hostility is any punishment merited - not for the blasphemy. As I said before, it is no surprise you get into these muddles - you fail to even understand sim...

shafique

Stop wriggling

Is it your belief that that there are no American ladies who dress provocatively (let's take for example the American ladies who Chappelle says wear the 'hoe's uniform') and expect to be chatted up by men?

Is that your belief? Yes or no?

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Care to explain this then (I presume you are counting yourself as someone who is literate): Although other Islamic scholars share Ghamidi's views on blasphemy, none dared air them so forcefully. "Ghamidi is a voice of reason in a babble of noises seemingly dedicated to irrationality," said...

shafique

So in Holland you have some ladies who dress like 'chavs' and don't expect to be propositioned or attract the attention of men according to you. Ok, I don't doubt that. My question to eh though was in which society or country are there NO women who dress provocatively and expect to attract the atten...

shafique

You asked the question in this thread - and asked for only one Pakistani critic (prominent) in response to my factual point that Muslims are indeed speaking out against the recent persecution of minorities. You have your example. He's against the persecution of minorities and says it is unIslamic, h...

shafique

Woah - all those questions for eh to ignore!

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Shafique

shafique

I do believe he's saying he lives in la-la land.

Why else will he not say why he thinks he can speak for a whole community as Bora asks.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Oh, so you think that a Swedish couple using the Bible to justify abusing their daughter is the same as a Pakistani human traficker in the UK. Hmm.

Logic isn't your strong point is it?

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

I didn't say thousands of years She wasn't only focusing on Nigeria, and again wasn't claiming a global war on Christians, but a global war on Christians in the Muslim World. Let me hone in on what has been labelled the 'myth' part of her article. Unfortunately, the way she addresses the issue fuel...

shafique

eh - the details of why Hirsi's theory is a myth are well explained in the 3 linked articles and indeed I hone in on a main issue above. It is futile for me to look up the facts for you, as it is clear you are not interested in the truth - only in peddling your hatred of a religion you insist is one...

shafique

Thanks. It is a shame that it has fallen on deaf ears though.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

LOL - BM has yet another conspiracy theory.

I'm the one baiting eh now.. I love it.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

There isn't a war. 3 articles explain why.

You choose to have another belief - and I choose to not join you in this belief.

Unless you have anything new to add - I'll move on to other issues. I wish you well in this belief of yours.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Nothing new there.

I concede you believe that you are right, despite the evidence in the articles. What do you think repeating your belief achieve?

Ok, NOW, I will move on.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

I agree, we have to agree to disagree on this one. We are not disagreeing on the very real instances of persecution of minorities by some Muslims - but only on whether these instnaces constitute as wide a problem as Ali makes out - and certainly not a global 'war' against Christians in the Muslim wo...

shafique

I'll wait for BM to tell him off for baiting. Death by lethal injection is often a cruel and painful execution.. see 'science of killing' the BBC documentary. Eh, as FD says 'only cowards run when confronted' - so let me offer you a deal. I'll clarify your latest cut and paste from a random blog sit...

shafique

Interesting to hear the views of our Christian American poster on whether he agrees with Rick Santorum on the role of the church in state affairs - i.e. a 'Christianisation' of the state. IIRC Palin said something about laws should be based on Biblical teachings.. but it is easy to lump this with ot...

shafique

Just as I thought - no condemnation.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Nope.

Anyway - as my edit above shows, I have a comprehensive answer ready for eh once he tackles the outstanding questions he has.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Stop trolling BM. It is eh that is the coward that runs away from questions (much like herve hiding behind made up lady personas!) But let's see, perhaps eh will answer his outstanding questions so that I can post the answer to his question and show why yet again he shouldn't believe what random blo...

shafique

As I have offered to clarify eh's question on the meaning of yaqattalu in the Quran when eh responds to his outstanding questions (only fair I think), I thought it best to have his questions answered in a separate thread - hence this one. The question is a simple one - in the instances listed, why d...

shafique

^She would just have put on her veil at work then. It's just a piece of cloth, after all.

What did you think of the video Nucleus posted?

Cheers,
Shafique

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