Hizbollah as I understand it are fighting for the freedom of Palestine, so why do they have such a force in a secular state like Lebanon? French "resistance" - less than 30,000 people from a country of over 30m at the time, don't get me started on the war dodgers. Nope - Hizbullah of Leba...
Scot - the article from which the quote was clipped went on to say that it was over 200 years later that Catholics made it to power. I wonder how outsiders view our custom of celebrating the capture of a Catholic terrorist by building fires and burning models of him. Guy Fawkes was tortured horribly...
Shafique, I know you grew up in the UK but you fail to grasp a saliant point - we're taking the piss! The whole point of "celebrating" Guy Fawkes isn't to beat up on Catholics, it's to remind Parliament not to get too comfy. I agree there is nothing anti-catholic or even political, yet al...
The liberation of what? A secular democracy????? Yeah, those folks need saving. Oh, and if the fighters are 100% Lebanese my name is Mohammed. The French "resistance" have a romantic name in Europe, they did next to nothing to counter the German war effort and are irrelevant. They were te...
Clarification: I don't personally think Hizbollah were wise to capture the soldiers and give Israel the excuse to launch last year's war. However the point here is whether the Hizbollah attacking Israeli soldiers can be termed 'terrorists' - my argument is that they are not 'terrorists'. Cheers, Sha...
Guy Fawkes was tortured horribly - drawn, quartered, disembowelled Why don`t the English do the same now with the Jihadist and revive the custom of celebrating the capture of a terrorist by building fires and burning models of them and have firework displays and cheaper then locking them up. I thin...
Scott, I'm afraid you are still missing the point I wanted to make - perhaps due to my poor choice of words. To recap: shafique wrote: I do not see anything wrong, say, with Hizbullah capturing the Israeli soldiers in South Lebanon last year. They are legitimate military targets generally, and the f...
I hope this not a stupid question - but I need to buy some windscreen washer fluid / screen wash and haven't found any in either Carrefour or at the filling stations. I had a fun time at the filling station describing washer fluid - but it's the stuff that goes in the car and squirts out onto the wi...
Why does Saudi persist with rules that have nothing to do with Islam? i.e. why does it prohibit women riding in cars with unrelated men? The prophet didn't even have cars in his day? Friends in Saudi tell me it because they want to stay in power and maintain their control over the population. They ...
Scripture can and does justify terrorism when interpreted with terror in mind when it comes to the bible and the Koran. If you take buddhist scripture - which contains no violence its no wonder that there is no such thing as a Tibetan Buddhist suicide bomber? After the occupation by china and bruta...
Ok - found the reference, wasn't quite as gory as I remembered - three monks murdered in 1997: http://www.cesnur.org/press/Newsweek.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorje_Shugden But does make the point that Buddhism has it's extremists who kill innocents! Sad fact that - but why should we be surpri...
Like lambs to the slaughter! :lol: I've actually taken the time to read the book of Mormon (not cover to cover, mind) and the story around it - and trust me, if they had debated the merits of the book of Mormon vs the Bible with someone who knew both, they would have been in even more trouble than o...
Read back on this forum, atheism is a harder choice than accepting organised religion as organised religion is rammed down your throat at an age when you are not able to question properly. Atheism doesn't pretend to have all the answers, but its answers often have a lot more science behind it than ...
OnT: The miracles of the koran doesnt really seem like miracles to me. I'll explain later if I have time. Theres some things thats remarkable that a 700th century beduin wudve known but calling it miracle is a bit far. Its all about interpretation of the text. Either way, can it really be called sc...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He There is a permanent exhibition about Zheng He in the China mall at Ibn Batutta - an exhibit that I passed many times without looking at. Yesterday I was showing some guests around and went and read the accounts of this man. I'd seen a documentary on him and his...
And talking about that, what about the stuff that contradicts todays science? That sperm is produced between the backbone and the ribs for example. How can the holy book be wrong about such a basic thing? Or are todays science wrong about such a simple thing? And whats up with the sun settling in a...
"Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted-Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs," (Qur'an 86:5-7). And accoring to the verse at the miracles site this drop is sperm most probably. "We created man from an extract of clay. Then We mad...
86.5-7 So let man consider of what he is created. He is created of gushing fluid, Which issues forth from between the loins and the breastbones. Commentary It is characteristic of the Quranic style that it substitutes mild or vague words of expressions for harsh and blunt ones. 'From between the loi...
I never said that the verse stating man being created from sperm was a scientific miracle of the Quran - and the Quran itself doesn't make this a big point, in context the verse is saying that man should ponder from whence he came... As for the Quran being clear - well, we don't have to speculate on...
As for the koran claryfying itself. I dont see the point of it. Why not write it clear to begin with. Why are only those "gifted with understandind" supposed to get what it means. It only creates confusion. Its pretty important stuff we are talking about here, burning in hell for an etern...
I thought I'd chip in and say I'm enjoying this thread immensely. I'm not a beleiver in conspiracy theories, nor do I tax my mind about them - generally facts do not seem to change events or most people's minds. So in the end, what is the point? However it is enjoyable to see people propose the cons...
RVP - the quote at the beginning of your post was not from me. You are right - Islam permits muslim men to marry women from amongst the 'people of the book' - i.e. Jews and Christians. Muslim women must marry muslim men. I haven't read the recent posts, but saw my name in your reply.. Cheers, Shafique
The Quran does not say that the sun orbits the earth. The Quran states that both sun and moon have 'fixed' orbits. However, being the pedant that I am, relative to the earth - the sun does orbit the earth! (It's all relative!) Anyway, the verse in question is addressed somewhere in this thread as I ...
I understand it's against Islam to show imagery portraying the prophet Mohamed, my question is, does this apply to other prophets as well? i.e. Moses, Jesus? In a nutshell - 'yes'. The reason for this was given by the prophet himself - it is to safeguard against idol worship. Making 'graven images'...