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shafique

Thanks for your opinion BM - but let's not compound any trolling in another thread with trolling here. Two wrongs don't make a right. My comment about the photo of the far right Germans was quite clear - they don't look like 'Muslims' to me. I'm sure most people can work out why I used the ' ' and u...

shafique

I'm happy for you that you think I've admited to trolling in the other thread. It seems quite important to you to think this - so I'm happy to have helped you out. ;) As for the Jersusalem Post photo of German far-right marchers - as I said, don't worry about 'not getting it' BM - let's focus on thi...

shafique

Dillon - as I said, I agreed with pretty much all of your post except that one part of your post.. Whilst Ahmadinejad is certainly pro-Palestinian and an outspoken critic of Israel's military occupation, I've not seen any real indication that he has advocated Iranian attack on Israel, or indeed advo...

shafique

It comes down to what you believe characterises Nazi ideology. You asked Question is why nazism is considered far right? Is that the biggest victory of the left church yet? I think it is his right wing policies - the most notable of which being his racist views. Call someone a Nazi and most people w...

shafique

Yep, that just about sums it up (sarcasm noted, though) ;). (I could add that Iran hasn't actually invaded any country in centuries.. but you knew that..) I had similar discussions with guys who insisted that Saddam had WMD - my view at the time was that that was an excuse. I smell the same fishines...

shafique

I'm so glad you're happy - and if all it takes is for me not to mention facts to you, then so be it. :) But can we now return to the topic at hand - how 90% of attacks against Jews in Germany are by right wingers - like the the EDL in the UK. Shocking statistic that isn't it - almost makes one asham...

shafique

As I stated in my previous post - perhaps it is the fact that the racist policies of the Nazis are what define them is what makes them right-wing. But let's examine what key elements of their ideology were: Key elements of the Nazi ideology National Socialist Program Racism Especially anti-Semitism,...

shafique

Whole world? Hmm - a bit presumptious of you there, I think. Am I really the ONLY one who thinks it is about Oil and Gas? Really? But yet again, I remember EXACTLY the same argument for Saddam's WMD - 'the whole world can't be wrong', at the same time that many were indeed questioning the 'official'...

shafique

Thanks for the quotes and your opinions eh. Rather than your usual whataboutery arguments, I was expecting (or rather hoping) for a discussion on the finding in the OP- that it is your right wing friends who are carrying out 90% of the anti-semitic attacks in Germany. I guess you have no comment, ot...

shafique

Many in the tin-foil hat brigade believe the Iraq war was over oil or something or other. I sincerely doubt your credibility about your claim that you knew the "truth" about Iraq's WMD's You seem to forget that some of the biggest marches in UK history were in the run up to invasion of Ir...

shafique

You want me to provide a link to a survey you introduced and refuse to go back and re-read and post the question in full? LOL What part of 'I'm not going to do so' confused you? I hope someone is keeping count: (I'm seeing how long it takes you to actually quote the question in full.. I'm not going ...

shafique

Eh, which of the 'Key elements of Nazi Ideology' listed above aren't right wing?

Your wish that Hitler was left wing is curious, but rather than deal with your beliefs - let's look at the key Nazi idiologies.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Intersting interpretation of eh's whataboutery. Thank you for that. For me, it looked very much like the usual denial of facts and reliance on snippets. But that's just me - I'm sure eh appreciates the mutual support you are showing him. ;) I'd much rather discuss the findings highlighted in the OP ...

shafique

A rather heart-warming piece of news from a Jewish site - about a Synagogue in NYC that is housed in a mosque. It appears that the Jews there aren't obviously readers (or more to the point, believers) of all the anti-Muslim websites and blogs that are sure that Islam teaches hatred of Jews etc. (BTW...

shafique

I'd like to discuss the new findings from the German study and explore why it is the far-right, who only number 26,000, in Germany who are carrying out 90% of the anti-semitic attacks there - hence the thread title and the information in the OP. It is valid to point out that headlines in previous re...

shafique

You really should take a leaf out of the Jewish Americans in the story and stop believing the bloggers that are feeding you all this Islamophobic myths eh.

This is a very positive story - please try and keep your hatred of Muslims out of this thread.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Your denials won't change facts eh. (I'm seeing how long it takes you to actually quote the question in full.. I'm not going to do so, because you're the one who is in denial, and I'm going to be counting how many times you call be a liar before you actually r...

shafique

So, what do your blogger friends have to say about the fact that 90% of anti-semitic attacks in Germany are by right-wingers who share your political views? All this spiel about 'Muslim hatred' of Jews etc doesn't address this specific fact does it? Smoke and Mirrors are just a sign of your desperat...

shafique

Most items on the list simply does not fall under a left/right axis Really? That surprising statement probably explains why you are confused over why the world considers Hitler and the Nazis to be right-wing and why only some right-wingers are not happy with this. But let's see the list you think i...

shafique

You believe? On what are you basing this belief, good sir? You seem to be implying that the numbers or severity of the attacks by your fellow right-wingers aren't numerous/serious. Is there any evidence for this you can provide? Hard numbers/evidence please - not conjecture. Thanks. Cheers, Shafique

shafique

You're welcome. You seem to not be in any dispute that I've quoted the whole list from http://www.Nazism.net which lists the Key Nazi ideologies. However, you've not answered the question about which of your supposed 'leftish' ideologies are on this list of Key Nazi ideologies. It is almost as if th...

shafique

Thanks for the snippet from the Israeli report from a few years back, again.

The question was what you are basing your beliefs about the 90% of anti-semitic attacks in Germany by your fellow right-wingers on. Tell me it isn't just this snippet and your hatred of Muslims.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Really, now you're imagining you've proved me to be a liar!

What a fantastic imagination you have eh!!

Shame (for you) it doesn't change the facts.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Excellent - I'm glad we agree it is positive. What part of Islamic law are the American Muslims contravening then, according to you? The Jewish law allows them to worship in mosques, after all - so no issues with the Jews. Please don't tell me you're still under the impression that anti-Muslim blogg...

shafique

What part of the following explanation do you not understand? I understood your belief the first time time you posted it. I believe they say these attacks must be relatively insignificant in number if they do not offset the majority of Antisemitic attacks carried out by Muslims in Western Europe. I...

shafique

FD - why the spin? I'm simply stating that the obvious reason why only a few right-wingers think Hitler was left wing is due to the fact that the Key Nazi Ideologies listed are right wing and define what Nazism is. It really isn't that complicated. If you put lipstick on a pig, it is still a pig. Yo...

shafique

What I don't understand is why you think that simply stating your belief that I'm lying changes the facts. 58% of American Christians justified killing civilians for some reason, same question was asked to American Muslims and only 21% justified killing of civilians. The Pew survey measured how many...

shafique

What misconception are you referring to? Easy: “People have a misconception that Muslims hate Jews,” said Baumann . “But here is an example of them working with us.” I'm surprised that you are confused. But then again, you do keep insisting that I'm an anti-Semite and that Hitler is left wing! Next...

shafique

I thought I was quite clear - the key ideologies of the Nazis are right wing, and hence this is why Hitler and the Nazis are right wing. Lipstick and pig (see previous post). In the scheme of conspiracy theories, this one is one of the weirdest. FD's OP talks about this being a victory for the 'left...

shafique

I'm sorry, why does one person's opinion prove that Muslims don't hate Jews? Because in this case it is a real life example vs the Islamophobic blogger theories that you want to believe in as being true. Simple really - it is fact vs blogger spin. It is fascinating how your hatred of Islam and Musl...

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