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Shaf, I find the (non) reactions to this vid from you and Nuc excedingly disturbing. The first thing I wrote in this thread was intentionally to allay any confusion over what my views of Jews, Killing Jews, terrorism etc are. I refer you to the post above. My reaction to the vid is also clearly sta...

shafique

^An interesting opinion FD. My observation is that this view of what Muslims believe is only shared by a select few posters on DF - those who have a desire to wish Memri's spin is accurate. The same small group of people also believe in theories found only on Islamophobic websites. But I think each ...

shafique

Flying Dutchman wrote:I have nothing against sandals.

Well, something else we have in common then !

I look forward to more thought provoking articles from the Guardian then - thanks for posting this one.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Chemi Shalev in Haaretz today has an interesting view point. He says that the hatred of President Obama shown by the Jewish publisher who advocated Israel killing Obama as a possible option, whilst stupid is shared by others. He makes some very strong points: Anyone who has spent any time talking to...

shafique

Uh, yes - I suggest you go and re-read the question and stop embarrassing yourself. Now - the fact remains that 58% of American Christians shared your view that violence against civilians is sometimes justified, and a lower proportion of American Muslims, American Atheists, American Jews etc shared ...

shafique

^That is your opinion - and I'll defend your right to express it. Nucleus and I clearly don't share this opinion. Leaving opinions to one side, do you think that you'll be able to track down the full transcript of this video and can you give me the requested references for this guy and the satellite...

shafique

Please stop trolling threads eh - it is getting tiresome.

If you can't bring yourself to comment on a current story about right-wing Americans (including Jewish Americans) who hate Obama, I suggest you just don't post in those threads.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Why would starting a thread on this topic be considered trolling? :roll: I haven't been watching the Republican nominatin debates, I agree. However this thread is about a Haaretz article relating to Adler's article and how he's not alone in his hatred of Obama. The Israeli angle you refer to is inde...

shafique

Leaving opinions to one side , do you think that you'll be able to track down the full transcript of this video and can you give me the requested references for this guy and the satellite tv station so that I can at least be as informed about him and the station as you are? At least give me the ref...

shafique

Sure - however you want to characterise the article, you read it and linked to it. The comments on the website showed that it generated a lot of interest, and a few additional points which were new to me.

Bravo the Guardian.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Why is asking for your source of your info after searching on Google 'obfuscation'. I could not find a reference that said they were 'salafi' or any information about the speaker himself. You seem to have come across some reference, information about the speaker and the tv station. Just asking for i...

shafique

It looks like poster Shafique is trying to say that there is no reason at all to discuss something if posters find they cannot agree on it beforehand. Interesting mis-interpretation of what I wrote - and I hope it is unintentional on your part. As my quote states - on the specific question on who y...

shafique

The only issues that could be debated would be the stupidity of two people. What I highlighted in the OP was the bit about others in the USA who share the hatred of Obama that the 'stupid' journalist and publisher exhibits. I've not argued that the guy is not stupid or that his extremist views are ...

shafique

:roll: You didn't re-read the question as I suggested, did you? The Pew survey showed that Muslims who said that violence against civilians, FOR WHATEVER REASON, were in the majority. Hence the title of this thread. You imagination about the question does not change this fact. (I'm seeing how long i...

shafique

Thanks FD - that's a great version of the story - the 'mythman' site is really quite good. I remember reading the stories of the Greek Myths as a child - before seeing film versions of some of the stories, such as Jason and the Argonauts etc. The stories were often better than the films! I have the ...

shafique

You seem to have misunderstood my quote above - I didn't state that you should agree with me, but rather that there's no point discussing a subject that has been discussed at length, and where we have a fundamental difference in definition. I have absolutely no problems with people having different ...

shafique

From Adler's original article - he stated that the Israeli government (as one option of 3) should assassinate Obama so that a more pro-Israeli replacement could gain power. Adler isn't anti-Israel - just at the very extremist end of the pro-Israel spectrum. ..the third is to “give the go-ahead for U...

shafique

I looked at the first few pages of the results about Shuman, but I couldn't see anywhere where it talked about who he was or how relevant popular he is. What it did show (strangely) is how popular he is with memri and similar sites. So, we have one reference to Al Rahma being a 'prominent salfist' c...

shafique

Thanks for the advice. But if I change a post after you've replied - you'll see an 'Edited' notice at the bottom - as there isn't one in my post above, you replied after my last edit (which was to add the quote from Adler's article).

You're free to reply now.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Double standards? That's rich. I've been asking from the first post for the full transcript of this particular Memri Special. If Memri was as reputable as Loonwatch, we'd have this by now. We don't. I therefore ask again, how can we be sure that this isn't another example of Memri's tactics: "c...

shafique

Your denial is now embarrassing and completely transparent. 58% of American Christians justified the killings of civilians, a higher % of American Muslims asked the same question. The Pew survey showed that the majority Muslims around the world said that killing of civilians FOR WHATEVER REASON was ...

shafique

The only people that "hate" Obama are those that are hardcore pro Israel, the majority are disappointed with him. Yes, this is what surprised me in the article quoted in the OP - the presence of this 'hardcore' of Americans who hate Obama so much that they still cling to the theories abou...

shafique

I hope that the Iranians won't close Hormuz, but the sabre-rattling is a bit worrying. I hope that the Economist's conclusions are proved correct (taken from this week's Economist, and which I quote in full below - for those interested in reading more fully): So the new sanctions are likelier to be ...

shafique

Thanks for your opinion. It is noted.

Should you come across the full transcript, please post.

Did you have a look at the two articles regarding Salafi satellite tv etc in Egypt?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

You're welcome. Sorry to hear about the increases in prices and the general feelings of unease and panic. It does not sound nice at all. Thanks for sharing your personal experiences - it puts the 'news' into real perspective and shows that global politics have real effects on the day to day lives of...

shafique

Fail.

shafique wrote:(I'm seeing how long it takes you to actually quote the question.. I'm not going to do so, because you're the one who is in denial, and I'm going to be counting how many times you call be a liar before you actually read and post the question in full. )

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Hey, welcome back Dillon, and thanks for bumping this thread back to the top.

Whilst eh hasn't been to Dubai or has any links to Dubai, my 'Dubai credentials' include attending the DF meet at the Raddison. So there, yet another myth easily dispatched

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Whilst I could quibble, I won't - but thanks for sharing your opinion, I look forward to your insights and trust they won't all be whataboutery jokes.

But Nucleus' point does raise the question why eh is on these forums doesn't it. Hmm.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

^Ahh, conspiracy theories! DF has seen a few in recent times - and a disproportionate amount from a certain gallic fiction writer! :D But anyway, let's try and bring this thread back on track... 58% of American Christians justified killing civilians for some reason, same question was asked to Americ...

shafique

Fail. You denial is epic, eh. The OP was about the Gallup survey, you brought up the Pew surveys on pg 1, and even then you failed spectacularly and have been complaining since: http://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai-politics-talk/poll-muslims-less-likely-justify-violence-t47068.html#p384740 (I'm seeing h...

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