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Re: Taqiyya: Institutionalized Dishonesty

A Shia and a Sunni would both answer 'Islam' as their religion - my point was that the KSA, to my recollection, does not ask whether you are Shia/Sunni or whatever - just the religion. To my recollection, this is also asked on the visa forms for the UAE - I had to fill in the details for the work vi...
by shafique
Jan 03, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Taqiyya: institutionalized dishonesty
Replies: 63
Views: 5419

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

Chocs was right, eh can't actually find a real example. Once again, believing what bloggers tell him gets him into trouble.

Cheers,

Shafique
by shafique
Jan 03, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: Taqiyya: Institutionalized Dishonesty

FD - again, where are you getting your information from? I suggest you check your sources again. I have been to Mecca and Medina and was not asked at any point whether I was shia, wahabbi, salafi etc. When asked what religion - all would answer 'Islam'. I'm sure there are enough real issues we disag...
by shafique
Jan 03, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Taqiyya: institutionalized dishonesty
Replies: 63
Views: 5419

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

Did eh find an example then? If not, then Chocs is right. I think Chocs is entitled as anyone else to give her opinion of the most extremist religious person posting here - after all, no one else has come out and said they believe in talking donkeys or that the slaughter of babies by men is 'an act ...
by shafique
Jan 03, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

Fail. In the other thread, you imagined that an article was joking about wife beating when it wasn't. In this thread eh is either justifying wife beating or joking about it. I'm surprised that you're not condemning his justification for beating wives. Your fail is as complete as Eh's failure this ti...
by shafique
Jan 03, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: Taqiyya: Institutionalized Dishonesty

A Muslim would answer 'Islam' when asked what their religion was. Duh. :roll: As I stated in my posts above, what the Saudi authorities ask on the forms is 'Religion' - and the answer would be Islam (whether you are Shia, Wahabi, sunni, Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi, Brevli, Ismaeli etc etc) Your fail is ep...
by shafique
Jan 03, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Taqiyya: institutionalized dishonesty
Replies: 63
Views: 5419

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

eh - you were called out by Chocs in Dec 2009 on exactly the same subject.

Your hypotheticals are getting tiresome - if you can't find one real incident to discuss, just admit it and move on.

Cheers,

Shafique
by shafique
Jan 03, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: Taqiyya: Institutionalized Dishonesty

Why do you believe in talking donkeys? (Well, I'm guessing you are just asking random questions now). You've failed eh - to enter KSA people are asked what their religion is - and the answer is either 'Islam' 'Christianity' or the name of another religion. Your argument has back-fired spectacularly....
by shafique
Jan 04, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Taqiyya: institutionalized dishonesty
Replies: 63
Views: 5419

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

What part of 'your hypotheticals are getting tiresome' led you to think I'll address your hypotheticals? Now, IF you can produce one real case that fits in with your theories about Islam - I'll be more than happy to discuss that. Given you have many, many real questions about the Bible etc - and not...
by shafique
Jan 04, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: Taqiyya: Institutionalized Dishonesty

LOL - you guys are so funny when you've failed so blatantly. As Nucleus rightly points out, KSA ask applicants what their religion is - and the answer is either Islam or some other religion (or no religion). No Taqiyya in sight. Fail. Complete Fail. The Quran clearly states that Muhammad, pbuh, is t...
by shafique
Jan 04, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Taqiyya: institutionalized dishonesty
Replies: 63
Views: 5419

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

Someone let me know if we ever find one real life example of a Muslim man following all 3 steps laid out in the Quran. We can then check to see what was 'rebellious' about the woman in question. Hypotheticals are all well and good, but I think it better to deal with reality. That's just me of course...
by shafique
Jan 04, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

What you described BM is clearly a crime and the guy should be (was?) punished for the crime. It was clearly not in line with what Islam teaches - that was clear, I didn't think it was worth stating the obvious. Forcing a lady into prostitution has nothing to do with any religious teaching - to most...
by shafique
Jan 04, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: Taqiyya: Institutionalized Dishonesty

And no new law/religion will be brought by Jesus, as Islam is the final religion.

Cheers,

Shafique
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Taqiyya: institutionalized dishonesty
Replies: 63
Views: 5419

Re: What Hadith Is Hamas Citing?

As an aside, the prophecies about Dajjal's donkey are very interesting I find - they were phrased to make sense to 7th century Arabs and take on a new meaning today, IMO. I also find quite a lot of similarity between the descriptions of the latter days in Hadith and the descriptions of the same peri...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What hadith is Hamas citing?
Replies: 39
Views: 4662

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

Actually eh, as I sated a few times before, it is your blogger friends who have this obsession with coming up with spin on Quranic verses which have no basis in reality. If you are right, then you should be able to find some Muslim men who have applied this verse in practice. I await your first inst...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Palestine/Israel - Quiz Questions

This list of quiz questions was posted by me a while back in the linked thread below (relating to the diplomatic moves the Palestinians are making towards freeing themselves from the Military Occupation by Israel). It highlights verifiable facts which make for uncomfortable reading for those champio...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Palestine/Israel - Quiz Questions
Replies: 74
Views: 4288

Re: What Hadith Is Hamas Citing?

Actually, the differences between the last days in Christianity and Islam are as clear as night and day. Islam explicitly teaches that Muslims will do the killing where in the Bible only God and heavenly beings will carry out violence. It's the difference between an act of God and outright genocide...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What hadith is Hamas citing?
Replies: 39
Views: 4662

Re: What Hadith Is Hamas Citing?

You didn't actually answer the question posed eh. (As usual). Will the Jews who do not accept Christ be among those slaughtered according to Revelations? Now, for those Christians who do not believe in Rapture and will be on earth when the slaughter happens - do they just sit and watch the slaughter...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What hadith is Hamas citing?
Replies: 39
Views: 4662

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

The example you gave was not a person following the Quranic verse and no cleric/expert/credible person has stated that he did and that it was ok under Islam.

Keep searching eh - when you find one example, I'll happily examine it with you.

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: Taqiyya: Institutionalized Dishonesty

Muhammad, pbuh, is the Khataman Nabiyyin - as God says so. The Seal of the Prophets. No new religion, no new religious law after Islam.

What has this got to do with Taqiyya and your epic failure in this thread eh?

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Taqiyya: institutionalized dishonesty
Replies: 63
Views: 5419

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

Fail.

The article does not say he followed the verse, but that he allegedly recited a Quranic verse when he beat his wife. :roll:

Did you not read what you posted?

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: What Hadith Is Hamas Citing?

Do you speak for the Majority of Christians now? Interesting - may I ask on what basis you are making these claims? But let me humour you - How many believe in Rapture? Is it the majority? You ask about my interpretations of the Hadith of the latter days - and what my 'excuse' is? Well, for me it is...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What hadith is Hamas citing?
Replies: 39
Views: 4662

Re: Taqiyya: Institutionalized Dishonesty

You can ask what you like eh - the fact remains you've failed. Epically failed. No Taqiyya in sight - only the desperate attempts (failed attempts) to move the goal posts! Heck - why the elaborate ad hominem attacks? Why not tackle the real issues raised in posts rather than tilting at windmills all...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Taqiyya: institutionalized dishonesty
Replies: 63
Views: 5419

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

Did you actually read the article you quoted?

event horizon wrote:The article said he was following the Koran.


It doesn't, therefore you either didn't read the article or are intentionally lying. Which is it?

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: What Hadith Is Hamas Citing?

When Jesus comes, the Jews who do not convert will be slaughtered - as I stated, what does it matter to those Jews who does the slaughtering? (And helping Jews to move to Israel so that prophecies of their destruction if they don't convert is quite a disturbing logic, to me at least.) Those Christia...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What hadith is Hamas citing?
Replies: 39
Views: 4662

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

So you lied. The article does not say he was following the Quran as you stated. What the article described was a man beating his wife in anger - that is not according to the Quranic commandment. I read, and understood, your quote. You should go back and re-read, and apologise for lying. Cheers, Shaf...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: What Hadith Is Hamas Citing?

Nice try eh - but no, I do not agree with your particular extremist views and do not believe it is ever justified for men to kill women and children in cold blood. Ever. Now - can you try and answer the questions posed - let's limit ourselves first to two easy ones: 1. Do you think the majority of C...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What hadith is Hamas citing?
Replies: 39
Views: 4662

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

Seems like you're in denial about your bare-faced lie. The article does not state he followed the Quranic instructions as you wrongly stated it did. You were careless - you could have said 'I interpret what was not written to be a vindication of my blogger friend's theory' but what you actually said...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405

Re: What Is A Rebellious Wife?

Stop wriggling eh. You've been caught out lying. I haven't. Imagining that I am a liar like you (and quoting me saying something true :roll: ) is both funny and desperate. Now, should you EVER find one person who has followed the Quranic instructions - I'll happily discuss the details with you. Chee...
by shafique
Jan 05, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: What is a rebellious wife?
Replies: 130
Views: 11405
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