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I almost forgot - Blackwater killings of civilians in Iraq = 'Christian terrorists' There will be a special prize when we get Zoroastrian Terrorism! :) Edit: It's actually informative to read up on the Tamil Tigers - they don't have religious affiliations, but are the ones who pioneered suicide bomb...

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Concord, Ok - so we are limiting the discussion to suicide bombers.... I wasn't, but ok. But to be fair, I used the example of Tamil Tigers because they did blow themselves up, and Japanese kamikazee pilots because they flew planes into targets (committing suicide in the process). Also, I don't thin...

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PS - I'm enjoying this discussion, I'm stuck in the office on a Saturday waiting for my staff to finish producing some financial projections before I can write a report with them which is due on Monday! I've had enough of Sudoku and reading 'The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' b...

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Gobstoppers, liquorice wheels, black jacks, sherbert fountains, false teeth, aniseed balls.... mmmm

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Let us wait and see. Concord's comments above make my point. It is now acceptable to call acts carried out by Muslim as 'islamic'. It may be that Concord meant to say 'if the terrorists are Islamists' (a term I don't like, but is better than 'Islamic' which tarnishes a whole religion)? However, I ex...

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obviously not an effective prayer.. just look at all the suffering and pain in the world today. Cause and effect. I look at the almost daily natural disasters and don't think 'Global Warming' but think God is sending us a message that we have strayed from His grace. Many millions of Muslims do find...

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Concord,

Just to clarify, you are saying that a terrorist who also is a muslim can be described as an 'Islamic Terrorist'. Are you saying this is a valid, accurate description?

Would a muslim who is addicted to drugs similarly be called an 'Islamic Drug Addict'?

Cheers,
Shafique

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Concord,

Thanks for the clarification.

If I agree with your logic for the sake of arguement, then the issue does become one of why other terrorists aren't labelled as 'Christian Terrorists' etc.

Which, I think, is the original question I asked.

cheers,
Shafique

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Thanks Concord. I agree with points 2, 4 and 5. Disagree with point 1, 3. Point 6 involves non-Muslim perceptions of Islam and muslims and the actions of terrorists. It may just be semantics, but I don't have issues with the label 'Muslim extremists', 'muslim terrorists', 'muslim fanatics' - these a...

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http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Iran/10157124.html Iran labels US army 'terrorists' In a significant move, Iran's Foreign Ministry on Sunday joined the country's Parliament in labeling the US Army and Central Intelligence Agency as terrorist organizations. "The label of terrorist is suitable for...

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the USA is more of an "oppressionist" to me. The word "terrorist" is too raw for them I think. Yujinn - terrorist should be used when civilians are targetted or killed in order to spread fear to achieve a goal. The US has been guilty of sponsoring and carrying out assassinations...

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Campaign launched in the UK: http://islamispeace.org.uk/ The report on BBC website states that it was launched by some prominent British Muslims, including a certain Michael Barry who is more known as being a TV Chef on the BBC 'Food and Drink' (before TV chefs became celebrities, it must be said) -...

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Frederick, Thank you for your post - it is well reasoned and I agree with what you have written. I also do not have an issue with the term 'Muslim Terrorist' and agree that 'Qutubism' may be a more accurate description - the Muslim Brotherhood have a lot to answer for. I feel I've probably said all ...

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scot1870 wrote:Hmmmm, the minority take on the occupying forces, the majority shoot and bomb civilians because of, well, whatever reason they think up that day.

I didn't know that a census had been carried out. Your information is better than mine

Cheers,
Shafique

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Is this a joke?

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Daniyaal, Interesting viewpoint. One slight problem with the suggestion - Islam happens to be the fastest growing religion in the west (certainly is the case in the UK). My father and his brothers came to the UK when they were teenagers (Mauritius was still a colony at the time) - and myself and my ...

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This reminds me of a quote from an American colleague of mine when I visited the US over the summer:

'I wonder what it would be like if the (American) Indians had a 'Patriot Act', 'Homeland Security' and Immigration laws'.

Cheers,
Shafique

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I see your point - I agree that Muslim countries should also encourage migration. I think most Muslim countries do - but many Arab countries don't... :) Islam is a religion. There are many Muslims who aren't 'eastern', 'arab' etc. I also agree there is a campaign against Islam - some of it is religi...

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Examples given of the countries may well be termed as terrorists activities by US but it does not fit into today's terrorism definition which is linked with a religion and is done on the name of islam. Those days we had two superpowers in the world and countries are divided and US propoganda machin...

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Now having said above, how do you relate it to what is being practised in islamic world like in rich arab states where they actually import maids from indonesia and subject them to both slavery and Concubinage. I mean are we back to pre islamic era? So: What is your view, and what do you recommend ...

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See the posts in the thread about why only muslim terrorists are labelled 'Islamic'. My arguement is that the religious labelling has artificially created the impression of the religious divide you talk about. When examined objectively I find that the majority of terrorist acts aren't due to religio...

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Interesting comment/article: http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/cath_elliott/2007/10/the_high_street_porn_brokers.html Quote: There must be something about autumn. In the past few weeks, not only has Playboy opened up a flagship store on London's Oxford Street, but Cardiff Council has announced its...

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Ok - I'll try and keep this short and to the point :) Labels: In this thread I am specifically talking about the label 'Islamic Terrorism' - which is equating the religion with terrorism. You will notice I say I don't have a problem with 'Muslim Terrorists' etc - but only have an issue with 'Islamic...

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Fayz, I was taught this was a Sunnah of the Prophet - and I also thought the amount of charity was the weight in Gold. I remember reading that the act of shaving one's head is a universal sign of submission to God - and is one of the reasons why after the Haj we shave our heads (if male) and women s...

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Officially announced Eid is Friday for UAE.

Eid Mubarak to everyone.

Wasalaam,
Shafique

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Hmmmm, the minority take on the occupying forces, the majority shoot and bomb civilians because of, well, whatever reason they think up that day. I didn't know that a census had been carried out. Your information is better than mine :wink: Cheers, Shafique Count the bodies Counting the bodies of ci...

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The Playboy bunny is not just a fluffy designer logo; it is the no 1 icon of the p<3n industry. Ahhh, the power of perception. From a business perspective 8), if you actually look at what Playboy put their name to (apart from the magazine) it's pretty tame stuff, a brand that everyone has heard of ...

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Thanks Chocs - I'm aware of the stats which estimate the number of illegal immigrants already in the UK, but as I stated in my last post - I'm not aware of any studies which predicted the numbers that would come (how would they do that anyway?) However, thanks to the link to migrantwatch uk. My othe...

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Nice try guys, unfortunately you still miss the point in that although make-up might alter ones appearance, you can still SEE THE FACE, and therefore identify the person, so once again - moot point. So, altering one's appearance is ok - as long as you can recognise a face. I've got a great idea - i...

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Well, from an Islamic perspective the crucial point will come when man is able to create life out of inanimate materials - for the Quran says only God creates life. That achievement would really put the cat amongst the pigeons. We're still a long way from that point right now - as you say, cutting a...

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