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shafique

Well, there are indeed many issues with religion being misused and leading to people to hold bizare beliefs. This occurs in Islam and Christianity, and also other religions too. A true religion for me should be logical and should not ask adherents to hold illogical beliefs - for me, God does not req...

shafique

Why when faced with actual evidence that contradicts and Islamophobic perception (in this case the fact that over 99% of actual terrorist attacks were carried out by non-Muslims and the handful that were, were non-fatal) do I suddenly get asked to forget the facts and address hype? Surely it should ...

shafique

herve - actually, the evidence as presented in this thread on pg9 shows that when it comes to the crimes of violence against women, British Asians have a lower level of incidence of violence against women. There are at least 3 million in the UK alone, including one rape every 9 minutes. (Note this i...

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Well, in 2008 you agreed with Finkelstein pointing out the fallacy of the Israeli spin. I also note that you were advocating more non-violent means of resisting the occupation. And yet now you don't seem to be that pleased with the Palestinian diplomatic moves - such as at the UN. That said - your f...

shafique

eh, you really are struggling with comprehension aren't you? The quote on pg9 of this thread does say that the incidents of violence against women in the British Asian community is lower than the national average - i.e. lower than the overall average rate. As for incidents of violence in Latin Ameri...

shafique

My own source is quite clear about the numbers of terrorist acts (less than 1%) and that they were all non-fatal. This whole thread is about how the reality does not match the hype. I have stated that I agree with the experts who explain why the hype about Jihadists is overblown, and why Islamophobe...

shafique

It seems you are arguing that I am somehow ignoring statistics? Sorry, this thread is not about terrorists who share your right wing views and those who don't - this thread is about Jihadist terrorists in the EU and the stats which show they carried out fewer than 1% of terror attacks. Whether the 9...

shafique

In case you missed it, I said if you want to talk about rightwing vs left wing non-Muslim terrorists, please start a new thread. This thread is about the fact that Jihadist terrorists did not cause any fatalities last year in the EU and represented less than 1% of the terror attacks. I'm not ignorin...

shafique

Sorry, I didn't actually see any facts in your post. Were you really referring to your statements as 'loon beliefs'? This thread is actually about a supposed increase in honour killings in the UK, and the original article talks about 2,823 honour crimes in the UK - and does not talk about the religi...

shafique

Well, if you want to discuss criminality etc in the USA, let's do so in another thread. As for your (and herve) theory that Islam is a cause of honour killings - I repeat that I've only seen this theory supported by some Islamophobic bloggers. The experts on the subject cited in this thread all say ...

shafique

So, you don't want to discuss the statistics, but you want to believe the hype? The experts I agree with, explain why you want to believe the hype despite the facts. I admire your capacity to ignore facts and run away from reconciling your belief with the facts. I didn't believe the 'experts' who sa...

shafique

Muslamic Ray Guns!! Damn, our secret is out!!

I like this obligatory remix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuIZVazX ... re=related

Makes one proud to be British!

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Thanks for sharing your beliefs again. I continue to await any expert that agrees with you and herve that Islam is responsible for honour killings. Do you have anyone who isn't an Islamophobic blogger that agrees with this view? If so, please present the evidence. As for discussing criminality in th...

shafique

Why the confusion eh? The experts I agree with say that the threat is over blown - they use the official EU stats that I quoted which back up their argument. You don't dispute the statistics, but want to believe the hype. How can I make this clearer for you - I believe in the cold hard statistics fr...

shafique

Less that 5% of the UK population carry out less than 0.6% of the violent crimes against women (3 million a year) that represent honour killings. Yes. But the stats on how many crimes against women in the UK is one thing, your theory that Islam is behind the 0.6% of the crimes is one you have yet to...

shafique

Why not address the statistics caps? I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of the few that still believe that Saddam had WMD!

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

herve - did you manage to find out how many of the 2,823 incidents were committed by Muslims? How about the number of Muslims in the 3 million total crimes against women in the UK - of which therefor honour crimes are less than 1% of the total? The original article does not mention Muslims or any ot...

shafique

Haaretz has contrasted two recent events - one where a Palestinian was killed after being hit in the head by a tear gas cannister, and one where right-wing colonists (settlers) over-ran and vandalised an army base. First, Jonathan Pollak calls the dead Palestinian courageous and gives reasons why: A...

shafique

I'm glad that a new thread about what the Quran says about treating others has been created. What is strange is why event horizon is upset at God's commandments about the treatment of others in 16.90. Here is my original post which explains these levels - including the Arabic terms which event horiz...

shafique

There are 3 million plus acts of violence against women in the UK, of which less than 1% constitute these honour crimes. Of these 1 in 3 are carried out by non-Muslims. No expert you've quoted agrees with you that Islam is linked to the 0.6% of crimes against women in the UK. On the contrary experts...

shafique

The 'Platinum Rule' is what I call the highest level of empathy in Islam - where one treats others as if they were family. 16.90 is a beautiful verse that states the three levels of interactions with others one should do, and also what one shouldn't do. The lowest level is Justice - act with justice...

shafique

It is the Islamophobic bloggers that have this perverse notion that Islam condones paedophillia. God's commandments are quite clear - no forced marriages, no s.ex outside of marriage and no paedophillia. The Quranic verses, hadith and even scientific evidence clearly outweigh what Islamophobic blogg...

shafique

I highlighted the words in Arabic for you above. Try and keep up eh. The highest level is (Ita'i Dhil-Qurba) - 'Kindred' -to treat others as you would treat family, i.e. give them love etc without any regard for how they actually behave towards you/others - as you would treat your child/parents/sibl...

shafique

LOL - so you find a commentary that agrees with what I wrote and suddenly 'not being original' is a bad thing. :D :D That's some perverse logic there eh - the next time you cut and pastes from an Islamophobic website I may remind you of this logic. ;) I note you're studiously avoiding the questions ...

shafique

Let me repeat what I wrote - it is the Islamphobic bloggers who have the perverse notion/interpretation of the verse about divorce. God's commandments are clear - no s.ex outside marriage, no forced marriages and no paedophillia. You can choose to believe the evidence presented or choose to believe ...

shafique

What is your problem with the platinum rule though? You've shown a commentary that also describes the three positive levels, and the actions forbidden. Why are you so agitated over a positive teaching? (Nucleus - you may want to clarify with event horizon which particular Arabic translation you agre...

shafique

Why are you avoiding the question? What is your problem with the Platinum rule? The Platinum rule, as I explained, is my summary of the teachings. You have quoted a commentary of the verse that agrees with my description of the three levels, but still are insisting that I am wrong :roll: If you want...

shafique

Thanks Nucleus. The context is indeed a 'comprehensive ethical exhortation' - and as I explained the lowest level is the 'Golden Rule'. eh - I trust you now see why I advised you against drawing your conclusions from an English translation. Do you now see how treating 'your fellow man' as your kin i...

shafique

No eh, go back and re-read the explanation of the third level. I understand that you're reeling that nucleus, rather than agreeing with you, has produced another source that explains the same concept. Treating mankind as you would treat family - benevolence and grace, without any notion of getting a...

shafique

Nucleus wrote:Is there a verse in Bible that prohibts pedophilia?

I look forward to the answer to this one. (I'll leave you to enlighten eh as to what marriageable age means - you may want to refer him to the video again)

Cheers,

Shafique

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