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Andy - thanks for that video. I enjoyed it - and it was indeed thought provoking. I initially thought he was going to compare the situation in Africa, rather than the Mid East.. as the analogy fits perfectly there too. Similar theme in this (shorter) political ad (imagine if China were occupying Tex...

shafique

So your latest theory is that it is a media conspiracy theory!

I actually quoted official Europol statistics though. Are they in on the conspiracy too?

LOL

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

^At least herve is proud to give us the sources of his conspiracy theories. I've already stated that the only one's who believe herve's theory are Islamophobic/ (and just for FD ;) ) Loon bloggers. I wonder whether herve will ever get round to seeing whether he can produce the goods: I challenge you...

shafique

It isn't a media conspiracy. The Bitish press do not refer to a person's religion, ethic background or colour. Fact. I thought you would have known that if you were 'British'. :roll: Really? Are you sure you're not making excuses for the fact that only Islamophobe bloggers make the link and that th...

shafique

Still waiting for any reference that does not come from an Islamphobic website. C'mon guys, I'm sure you can find at least one source that agrees with your view that Islam is responsible for honour killings to counter the experts that disagree with you. Trying to diagnose an imagined psychiatric mal...

shafique

That is some conspiracy theory! The media do run stories about ethnic groupings and not always in a positive light - eg the Guardian was one of many which covered the educational achievements of different ethnic groups in the UK: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/sep/03/social-class-achieveme...

shafique

The speed at which you move the goal posts makes people's heads spin!

But hey, if you want to believe Islamophobic bloggers and their conspiracy theories.. don't let me stop you.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

LOL - you really don't get on well with evidence and stats do you? 3 million crimes against women of which less than 1% represent honour crimes in the UK. 33% of honour crimes are carried out my non-Muslims and yet you 'believe' that 'almost all' are carried out by Muslims. But given that you give a...

shafique

In case you missed it eh (and btw, welcome back) - this thread is about the facts about the attacks in the EU and how less than one percent of terrorist acts are by 'Jihadists' and how last year none of them killed anyone. When it comes to Islamophobic theories in other threads - they, you will note...

shafique

eh, you really must try and keep up. The 2/3 figure came from the same source as produced the figures in the OP. My question to you is focussed on your particular belief that links Islam with honour killings. Can you provide one expert quote that agrees with you? So far I've only seen Islamophobic b...

shafique

eh - what have I told you about interpreting the Quran solely from your perspective of one translation. You have to go to the Arabic. I explained the Platinum rule to you and explained that this stems from 16.90 - the highest level of virtue is treat everyone the way in which you would treat kith an...

shafique

eh is also just making up beliefs now. He claims that honour killings by Hindus are rare. And that Sikh's committing honour killings may have something to do with Islam. He is obviously not relying on any real research or experts! I suspect he just made this up or picked it up from a random blogger....

shafique

The point of this thread is to highlight the fact that the actual terrorist attacks by Jihadists in the EU only account for less than 1% of attacks and that these were non-lethal last year. I'm happy to listen to the explanations of why people hold on to a belief that the main threat is Islamic terr...

shafique

eh, please stop trolling threads. This thread is not about your deliberate misinterpretations of other people's religions. I've explained the Platinum rule to you and explained how it derives from God's commandment in the Quran how to treat others - the highest level being to treat them as you would...

shafique

DFT - most penal codes, Iranian or otherwise, would have the state step in and take the place of family in these cases. So in the case of no family, the punishment would actually be decided by the state judiciary. What is interesting is that the report I found states that the punishment in practice ...

shafique

Well, there are indeed many issues with religion being misused and leading to people to hold bizare beliefs. This occurs in Islam and Christianity, and also other religions too. A true religion for me should be logical and should not ask adherents to hold illogical beliefs - for me, God does not req...

shafique

The EU report says clearly what is in the title of this thread - that less than 1% of actual terror attacks carried out by Muslims, and none were fatal. As I quoted in the first thread on the subject - which related to the 2009 report: On p.7, the 2009 Europol report concludes: Islamist terrorism is...

shafique

Sorry eh - where does the article state that Ta'zir punishents do not include the death penalty? Yor exception shows that it does allow for death penalties. As I stated, the problem seems to be that in practice these discretionary punishments are being used a loophole to let murderers not face punis...

shafique

I did read from the beginning. The article states that in practice the death penalty is not being asked for, not that they can't ask for it. The issue seems to be that the state judiciary is passing over sentencing to the family, rather than taking the decision themselves. This is quite different fr...

shafique

It says that last year no deaths occured as a result of jihadist terrorist attacks in the EU and that over 99% of the terrorist attacks were carried out by non-Muslim terrorists. I thought the OP was quite clear.

Facts, not hype.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

You've failed to show that the law does not allow for the death penalty where a father or grandfather commit the murder. In the case of a brother, sister or mother (or other relative) carrying out the murder - there is no loophole in the sentencing is there? Hasn't your whole argument that Islam con...

shafique

FD - epic wishful thinking there. Shame it is just a statement of your belief rather than being based on reality. Can you show where a Quranic description of a historical event differs from the Biblical and the archaeological record shows that the Biblical description is correct? Give us specific ex...

shafique

I know that statistics and evidence can easily confuse some people - but I suspect that caps hasn't even read the recent posts. If he had, he'd have discovered that eh's whole argument about Iranian laws against honour killings has crumbled. Caps - I wasn't asking you whether 0.66% was greater that ...

shafique

I guess the answer is 'no, I can't back up my claim' then. I thought so.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I was right though - your belief is not based on evidence. Personal attacks is all you have left. Coming to herve's post above about Bob Spencer's new theory that the Prophet Muhammad did not exist. That's raises some interesting points - Spencer has often argued in favour of Islamophobic views abou...

shafique

Yes, and quite easy to look up (search for Historicity). But surely you need to ask herve about Spencer's new theory that Muhammad didn't exist. It seems as credible as your statement that the Bible is a more archaeologically sound book than the Quran - i.e. nothing more than wishful thinking. Are r...

shafique

general, I downloaded it from a well known torrent site (I think it is in Sweden, initials PB...)

If you can't find it, let me know and I'll pm you exact details.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

I saw that the documentary 5 laws is available on Youtube - I haven't watched it yet.. but will do.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Here I disagree. The Bible has proven to be an important historical book backed up by archeology to at least 2000 B.C. An amazing feat. The Quran on the other hand is worthless as a historical book. By a strange coincidence, when reading the thread on Palestinians - the board listed the 'Demystifyi...

shafique

FD - I asked you to back up your claim that the Bible is more historically accurate than the Quran, you didn't do so. However, you have now clarified the point that before 2000B.C. the Bible's claims/descriptions aren't that accurate - indeed I remember you stating here that you weren't sure that Mo...

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