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Did you switch off the audio at 5.50?

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Shafique

shafique

LOL - epic failure herve, epic failure.

Ignoring evidence provided is all that is left to you. You look like a sad old bigot now, sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending that evidence is not presented.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

As explained, if you listened, this applies to menopausal women - but hey, perhaps if you wish really, really, really, really hard you'll make everyone ingore this fact. But its in the vid @ 5.50.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Are you now trying a different argument now that you've failed, again? Address the evidence in the video - the concept of s.exual and intelectual maturity etc all in the video. All of it shows that your loon version is false. It should be straightforward if your loon theory is correct - show that th...

shafique

Yes I attended - a memorable night.

IIRC the venue was public knowledge - and the first post of the thread linked, Concs refers to another thread - this one was for the list of those attending. In any case, it was open to all and heavily advertised - as you can see from the thread.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

LOL eh, you're busted too. Now your friends have started to watch the video and comment about the Quranic, Hadith and scientific material in it - you can no longer avoid the clear evidence. Repeating your quotes from loon websites won't help - at the end of the day you are still relying on a misinte...

shafique

The presenter makes the case very well - your whole case is based on a loon misinterpretation of a verse about divorce. However, at the end of the day whether loons believe Islam condones paedophillia or not is moot - what God says is very clear. That is why eh can only pretend that the clear eviden...

shafique

eh - just admit it. You've failed.

You are relying on a loon inference of one verse in the Quran which does NOT say paedophillia is ok. Only if we jump through your loon logic hoop can you make this silly assertion.

Fail.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Fail. Again.

Imagining that 33.49 is about pre-pubescent girls is yet another sign of your desperation.

Islam is quite clear, it really is funny how loons wish to ignore this fact.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Your imagination is getting tiring.

But why the desperation to justify a discredited loon notion about Islam? Who are you trying to convince?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

nucleus, the problem eh has is that his whole argument rests on this one Islamophobic misinterpretation about a verse on divorce. He has to try really, really, really hard to ignore the fact that the Quran is very clear about not allowing forced marriages, s.ex outside of marriage or any paedophilli...

shafique

In modern day societies, domestic violence is a major issue. Whereever it occurs it is a crime and should be punished. I condemn all instances of domestic abuse - and find those instances where religion is misused to justify it particularly heinous. The Quran actually stipulates that domestic abuse ...

shafique

I'm glad you mention stats. If you count the numbers of convicted paedophiles and paedophiles on the s.exual offenders register - you'll find that Muslims don't form the majority - not by a long, long way. Are you going to argue that the fact that Catholicism is responsible for the paedophillia by C...

shafique

Jokes aside, I can't see how the Euro-zone can continue in it's current form. I guess that they'll first try and kick some countries out... but after that, who knows? I think there's a good possibility it will collapse completely. Then attention will turn to the dollar. That will be interesting. Che...

shafique

Quran categorically states that wife battery/domestic abuse is not allowed.

Islam does allow for corporal and capital punishment though - with adequate safeguards.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Yes. The conditions set by God before corporal punishment can be meted out, effectively make this not domestic abuse. I know of no Muslim man who has fulfilled the conditions laid down in Quran and invoked this verse - i.e. it is not used. It is only the last of a series of punishments. Cheers, Shaf...

shafique

LOL - loons and their weird beliefs eh!

You can smell eh's desperation - wanting to believe a rogue loon misinterpretation rather than the clear evidence provided.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Oh come on Shaf, it's all complete BS. So women can be punished but no men? Ok, yeah right, just reconfirms my opinion that all this is tripe interpreted by men for the benefit of men - just makes them appear weak and pathetic in my eyes. Who say's men can't be punished? The Quranic punishments for...

shafique

I don't know all of the 1 billion plus Muslims in the world gertrude. :roll: If the criminals say they are Muslilm, then they are Muslim as far as I am concerned - but I don't know them. Their crime is against Islam though. Do you ask Catholics if the Paedophile priests are Christian? Cheers, Shafique

shafique

As I stated, the stats in US and Europe are horrendous. The situation in the Mid East etc is less clear as the stats aren't as reliable. Violence against women is a global phenomenon and a number of organisations do compile stats and highlight the issues. Here's a WHO report: http://www.who.int/medi...

shafique

gertrude, what did I tell you about believing all those crazee loon websites you frequent. I asked you whether you asked Catholics whether the paedo priests were Christian or not, not about whether they are prosecuted (or, for that matter, whether the church covers up the issues). As for the 7 - I'm...

shafique

I'm glad that you are now clear on what I was stating. I thought I made it clear that I condemn any and all violence against women, and even if the incidence of violence in Muslim countries was one 20th of the scale in Europe (1%) that would be 1% too much. Whatever the reasons for domestic abuse, i...

shafique

Did you watch the video? Did you disagree with what he presented? I'm sure that some cases of domestic abuse by Muslims is alcohol related. I'm sure that others are just because they are misogynistic. My point is that there is no Islamic justification for domestic abuse. That was what the video in t...

shafique

Your posts which seem to imply that you disagree with the points he made about what Islam says on the subject led me to ask the question whether you watched and disagreed with the video.

Do you disagree with his clarifications and explanations?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

However you dress up this misinterpretation, it is still the only basis of the loon (Islamophobic) argument that Islam allows paedophillia - and is quite hilarious how hard you have to work to ignore what Islam actually teaches: that s.ex outside marriage, forced marriages and paedophillia are all n...

shafique

BM - you have a weird way of reading posts. FD is the one that claimed that Muslim posters here were the ones making hate filled posts, I countered that post with the observations of who actually has been posting hate filled messages (rather than imagined ones that FD has dreamt up). It is a bit ric...

shafique

You're still convinced your misinterpretation of one verse of the Quran really outweighs all the other evidence presented which shows you're wrong? Wow. You're trying to put lipstick on a pig and call it a supermodel! Quran, Hadith and scientific references have been given to you to show that your m...

shafique

A rogue belief is a rogue belief how ever you dress it up. Quoting snippets from loon websites and deliberately ignoring all the other evidence that expose your deliberate misinterpretation of a verse about divorce just highlights the lack of any credibility of your argument. Islam clearly does not ...

shafique

The truth is that you're imagining things again. Just like you were convinced that an internet hoax was correct, you are now imagining that the official statistics from Europol which show that less than 1% of terrorist acts in the EU are carried out by Muslims somehow is not true. And you obviously ...

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