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What part of 'all references and evidence and clear conclusions on what Islam teaches are there' confused you eh? I fully understand that you want to believe your loon interpretation of one Quranic verse is correct, but unfortunately for you the clear evidence exposes this belief to be totally unIsl...

shafique

Anyone but a loon would have watched the video by now and realised how loony it is to believe Islam condones paedophillia - and would have realised how loony the argument that relies on misinterpreting one verse of the Quran is. I can only conclude that eh is in deep denial and hasn't actually taken...

shafique

Robert (Guru Bob) Spencer is an arch Islamophobe/Loon and presents himself as an expert on Islam, despite no actual qualifications that merit this claim. (See http://www.spencerwatch.com for more details). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYkdOJl3Dkw Islamophobia and Antisemitism: Same message, differ...

shafique

shafique wrote:Are you being deliberately dense?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcDSyruxyW4

All refs, evidence and clear conclusions on what Islam teaches are there - and shows why your one misinterpreted verse has led you up the loon garden path.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

The video was quite clear, Islam does not condone paedophillia, forced marriages or s.ex outside of marriage. Are you sure you watched it and took note of the Quranic and Hadith references? Which of the references given didn't address the issue of when a marriage can be consummated and hence whether...

shafique

The video was quite clear, Islam does not condone paedophillia, forced marriages or s.ex outside of marriage. Are you sure you watched it and took note of the Quranic and Hadith references? Which of the references given didn't address the issue of when a marriage can be consummated and hence whether...

shafique

It's near the beginning when it talks about marriageable age in Islam.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

2.20 onwards states the case. 3.15 starts with Quranic and other evidence which show Islam does not promote paedophillia.

It really is quite clear.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Huh? 2.20 onwards states that the case will be made from Quran, Hadith and science - and not from 'someone's opinion' and 3.15 onwards the evidence is presented - starting with a Quranic quote and continuing with other evidence and quotes (with references). Did you really watch it? Cheers, Shafique

shafique

You obviously haven't watched it. Part 1, from 3.15 onwards, begins with a Quranic quote and continues with other on-screen quotes and even some web references. Sheesh.

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Shafique

shafique

:D You're silly little editing is really quite pathetic. 2.20 onwards states the case. 3.15 starts with Quranic and other evidence which show Islam does not promote paedophillia. It really is quite clear. Quranic quote and evidence is there... you really have no where left to run do you? Cheers, Sha...

shafique

LOL - so now there are Quranic verses!! Bravo.

What confused you about the verses and the explanations and following evidence?

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Shafique

shafique

LOL - I understand you want to believe Islam condones paedophillia - but unfortunately for you that is not what the clear evidence shows.

I wonder how many more flip-flops you'll do - first no Quranic quotes, now there are Quranic quotes ...

(BTW - did you watch beyond 5 min?)

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

So, you didn't watch past 5 min then? I guess that explains your confusion... and embarrassment.

But hey, when you've lost an argument - I guess all you have left is to try and change the subject.

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Shafique

shafique

In the 'ye olde days' of DF - yes, the official meets were indeed public -very public. The radisson media city meet up in 2006, for example: http://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai-chat/official-dfm-gathering-guest-list-june-t8085-165.html Not many on the attendee list are still around - the old timers can...

shafique

LOL - yes herve, perhaps this time you are right.

65.4 is talking about divorce, you guys are inferring something that isn't actually said by God. The video shows this clearly. However, I'm sure you desperately wish to believe your loon interpretation of 65.4 is correct.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

:roll: 'regardless' that your argument relies on a loon interpretation of a verse about divorce, indeed. You must be so frustrated that only loons believe Islam teaches this - Muslims don't. They rely on the clear verses and evidence in the video that gertrude started watching (and confirmed contain...

shafique

I'm amused that you think I'm the one that is frustrated. I'm not the one who is losing the argument and trying to change the subject.

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Shafique

shafique

You have a very active imagination herve. But hey, if you want to change the subject now that you've lost the arugment, I understand. I can see quite a number of threads I've started which people have read but not many replied to. No replies means to me they read, understand and agree. If they disag...

shafique

Nazi vs Loon is an excellent example. Well done, bravo!!

The list there is categoric - and is about Guru Bob's loon rants. eh worships the guy, but can't dispute the comparisons made.

Thanks for bringing this up.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

You're free to believe whatever weird theory you like herve - I'm sure imagining that helps you get over your failure to win an argument here.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Again with the loon interpretation. :roll: It is a shame that you haven't realised that Muslims don't share your loon view. The Quranic, Hadith etc evidence in the video must really be doing your head in. gertrude in the end had to concede that the evidence was there... but couldn't bring herself to...

shafique

I'm saying that your loon interpretation of one verse about divorce is all you have to go by. Islam's teachings are quite clear - and the Quranic, Hadith etc evidence has been given to you. gertrude watched it and acknowledged it existed, but couldn't bring herself to state what the clear conclusion...

shafique

No, I don't share the loon interpretation of 65.4. After all these posts, you would have thought you'd have worked that out by now. I do believe in the clear Quranic, Hadith and other evidence presented to you - and the one that gertrude started watching. Try and keep up eh. Really. Cheers, Shafique

shafique

I refer you to the answer I gave first time you brought up the verse about divorce - that it refers to women who are menopausal, or who are otherwise mature but may not be having periods. http://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai-chat/manchester-jihad-recruiter-jailed-for-life-t47393-30.html#p387339 65.4 is ...

shafique

You see what happens when you get your information about Islam from loon websites!!

Your problem is that only loons believe your misinterpretation - and the evidence for the true teachings are in the video. Better luck next time.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

LOL - and what was the conclusion of the evidence then? It was clearly that Islam does not condone paedophillia.

You're busted. (The verse is about menopausal women)

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Yes, you continue to believe that. You only can make your case if you continue to misinterpret one verse of the Quran and ignore the evidence that clearly shows you are wrong.

Were you really an intelligence officer?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Try and keep up herve. The evidence all show that your loon misinterpretation is wrong. At 5.50 he explains that the verse applies to mature women .. why the selective quoting? If you want to believe the loon websites - go ahead. God is quite clear about what is allowed and not, and your silly misin...

shafique

Herve, your desperation is getting silly now.

5.50 explains how this verse applies to menopausal women.

You've failed. Again.

Cheers,
Shafique

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