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I'm getting used to it. It definitely looks a bit more cluttered, but once using for a while my eyes will know where to look for the info and will skim over the ads and crap.

kanelli

I saw part of the video and I can say that it looked like he knew exactly what he was doing. He didn't look intoxicated by tons of different drugs. (Was there a blood test done to confirm that he was intoxicated?) He looked like a brutal human animal, displaying behaviour that can be seen by those w...

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It always disgusts me, no matter what religion when I see any verses that women are allowed to be mistreated by men. When the world religions are created by men, what can you expect? That's why I can't bring myself to be anything besides an atheist. Technically, according to Christian tradition, I s...

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It is possible to wear modest dress and cover one's head while go-karting, it just needs to be more form-fitting, so this tragedy did not have to happen. If someone were to insist on doing sporting events with dangerous loose clothing, then they need to realize that those safety people can stop them...

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What religion doesn't subjugate women?

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^^keeps this thread alive for 822 pages!^^

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Despinaki wrote:RobbyG, I am Atheist, Vegeterian, Feminist, Non-Smoker, etc, etc

Ditto, except the vegetarian part. I was vegetarian and plan to go back to that.

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Hopefully there are a lot of men who are feminist too.

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I've really been thinking about Islam, women's rights and immigration issues after reading Infidel, by Ayaan Hirsi Ali. It was a very interesting read that brings up important issues. So fascinating to see her perspective change over time... What a life she has lived! Has anyone else here read it?

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Abuse of women mentally, physically, financially etc. is present in every religion and is ingrained in all world societies to this day. So, a couple of guys can be on here bickering about stale religious passages from two (of many) misogynistic religions, while women every day in every country face ...

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Well, doesn't make for good discussion if no one hasn't read it themselves. People are of course entitled to their own reviews of her books, but I wouldn't write her off based on others' reviews. I can see how Muslim men would be very rattled by her opinions, but it would be great to hear what some ...

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Yes, in my opinion both Christianity and Islam are misogynistic religions, as is Judaism. Wow, I'm going to be real popular now! ;) I remember watching my friend married in a Dutch Christian Reformed church (and marrying a Catholic which was a controversy in itself). The pastor was saying that my fr...

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Well, Muslims assimilating in non-Muslim societies in the West for example, would have to accept secular education systems and secular laws. Women would be free to dress how they like, have freedom of movement, freedom of choice who they marry, a set legal age where they are permitted to marry, and ...

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Well the volume isn't as significant as the severity of what is actually said. Both were a pretty depressing read! Atheism is best for me, because I could never submit to any God with those attitudes towards women. I'd be going to hell anyway, because I could never behave how any God wanted me to. :)

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But doesn't the class system permeate all of Indian society, no matter what religion? Stoning is extreme, but I don't think my examples were extreme at all, and they represent quite well what happens to many Muslim women who come from a more strict Muslim background. Shaf, do you get hassled by fami...

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And that's been a struggle for me, because I have a hard time accepting any personal faith because I just can't submit to a God who doesn't think I'm equal and who sets up women in society to be controlled and abused, whether the issue be big or small. Atheism and humanism do have a guideline which ...

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I checked out the web link and the site presents Islam in a very good light, but some of the info they give there seems to differ to what the Quranic verses say. According to the Quran, women are said to be worth less than a man etc. but instead the website says men and women are two parts of a whol...

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Shaf, A good question :) I will look around for more of Hirsi Ali's interviews to see if she discusses whether the version of Islam she was taught and lived under may be tainting her view of the faith as a whole. She is certainly brave for speaking her mind. Her intentions seem good - to improve the...

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event horizon, as Shaf already linked before, there are plenty of passages from the Bible that describe women in a similar way, and modern Christians like to brush those off too. In fact, I think it is welcome to ignore those passages, because it will improve the status and treatment of women in tha...

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Babelfish translation - raw. "Natural Mr. flying dutchman differently was they the next victim and the Dutch government could its no longer protect. Do dare do you once our prophet criticise mohammed in a Moslem country? I think also that you criticise go such as Theo van Gogh will have you Isl...

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Exactly. Ultra-conservative patriarchal religious folk of all denominations have done pretty heinous things to women in children in the name of their religion.

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Shaf, you are right about alcohol and incidence of violence. Here one watchdog site that gives some stats. http://www.marininstitute.org/alcohol_p ... olence.htm

Here's the RAINN website - http://www.rainn.org/statistics

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Well, I am a big fan of separation of church and government for several reasons, a) Laws can be based on human rights for everyone no matter which groups (religious or otherwise) they can be categorized into b) It prevents violence which can occur if people of other groups are forced to conform to o...

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Hi DK, I miss you! Was sad you couldn't make it to Bali. Do let us know if you are coming out this way for work or holiday, because we'd love to see you.

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This is definitely an interesting case! The US would have to provide public evidence that he was cooperative, but they haven't. (And could they?)

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http://www.arabianbusiness.com/592628-emaar-names-and-shames-first-service-fee-dodgers Whilst on one hand it is probably illegal for the Developer to take such action, on the other hand I can understand their point also. I suppose, but I just can't understand why they aren't accountable to owners f...

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dubaidog, it was nice to meet you in Bali, and a surprise to meet someone I hadn't already met from DF in Dubai before. I hope all is well with you

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I know which thread most of those posts are in...

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^^^Has an insane number of forum posts! (16, 014)

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I'm dreaming of a white Christmas...

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