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We were also going to look at ratios - look at the number of actual (or even alleged) plots by converts to Islam and divide that by the numbers converting to Islam (over the same period), and compare that with the ratios of terrorists from other faiths. Sorry, but that is not a fair comparison. I a...
by freefromrats
Aug 17, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

Scientists in Japan confirm Islam is the correct religion

http://www.daily.pk/scientists-in-ja...religion-7703/ Scientists in Japan microscopically confirmed islam is the correct religion Written by Farooq Hussain General Jul 31, 2009 Please study and embrace islam to win Paradise. As you can see in this wonderful video from Egyptian national TV studio the...
by freefromrats
Aug 17, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Scientists in Japan confirm Islam is the correct religion
Replies: 15
Views: 5324

(BTW - Goldstein is a terrorist, and a religiously motivated terrorist - and whilst not a convert, he was an imigrant to Palestine and carried out a heinous terrorist act whilst in army uniform, quite calmly and deliberately carried out the killings.... I view those who choose to leave the Bronx, s...
by freefromrats
Aug 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

I don't see anything wrong with it. Good. I'm glad we agree that Pickthall's translation is accurate. And of your insisting that conquer here means by a violent means or method. That would be the plain meaning of the word conquer. As we all know the dear pope called for this and declared open seaso...
by freefromrats
Aug 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For rudeboy - taking the Quran out of 'context'
Replies: 112
Views: 11057

Where God says he will make a religion prevail, The translation says that Muslims will conquer all other religions. this is a reflection of the perfection of the religion Unfortunately, the verse does not say that. and not the strength of arms of its adherents (but you knew that, of course). When I...
by freefromrats
Aug 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For rudeboy - taking the Quran out of 'context'
Replies: 112
Views: 11057

The same Japanese scientists and to be more specific Dr. Masaru Emoto also "confirmed" that all religions are correct... And all positive thoughts result in beautiful water crystals while negative thoughts result in ugly water crystals. But in reality Dr. Masaru Emoto proved only the obse...
by freefromrats
Aug 18, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Scientists in Japan confirm Islam is the correct religion
Replies: 15
Views: 5324

he is quite well known and was responsible for the deaths of many thousands of innocent civilians Really? How so? Did he order bombs to be dropped on marketplaces and mosques? Do you have actual data (not imagined) of how many people were killed under his orders? Did these events take place before ...
by freefromrats
Aug 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

When I hear that one nation conquered another nation, I think they defeated them through military force. When I hear hoofbeats, I think horses, not zebras :wink: When you keep your eyes closed (when everyone says take a peek) and insist the elephant is like a snake, who is to blame - those who see ...
by freefromrats
Aug 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For rudeboy - taking the Quran out of 'context'
Replies: 112
Views: 11057

Christians who think God is ordering them to go to war to be among those counted as committing acts leading to deaths of civilians (indeed terrorism by any definition) over the same period.. what do you think? I agree that the deliberate killing of civilians - such as the beheading of several hundr...
by freefromrats
Aug 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

Yes, I so far have one person in mind for the Catholic Convert responsible for killing innocent people and terrorising populations category. I'm more than willing to read how you believe these people were killed, how many were killed (after the conversion) and were they under the direct orders of t...
by freefromrats
Aug 19, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

[ Good question. Why don't you count how many verses are in the Koran that say to fight only in self defense and compare that total with passages that say to fight against unbelievers? Done that, bought the t-shirt. Your point is what exactly? Glad you are aware that the Quran does have other verse...
by freefromrats
Aug 19, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For rudeboy - taking the Quran out of 'context'
Replies: 112
Views: 11057

I feel like banging my head against the wall. just dont understand some ppl, you try your best to explain it to them but they dont want to understand and stick to their guns. Anyways, moving onto the next verse, since we've come to the conclusion that the 'conquer all religions' is a correct transl...
by freefromrats
Aug 19, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For rudeboy - taking the Quran out of 'context'
Replies: 112
Views: 11057

Imagine how silly I would be if I argued that this is what Christianity teaches and ignored the fact there are contradictory verses in the Bible that talk about women being Deacons etc. Yes, that would be silly of you to argue that. Almost as if you had not read the New Testament beforehand and tri...
by freefromrats
Aug 20, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For rudeboy - taking the Quran out of 'context'
Replies: 112
Views: 11057

Do you have an issue with this? I have a problem with counting civilians (including the 100 plus Iraqis killed today) who are murdered by Islamic insurgents as those killed by the Americans or British. And yes, I do see a difference between someone purposely targeting civilians as opposed to civili...
by freefromrats
Aug 20, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

Film maker taken to court for stealing 0.003p of electricity

....at a cost of over £5,000 to the taxpayer A documentary film-maker was hauled into court on a charge of stealing electricity worth 0.003p. But by the time the ludicrous case was dropped, the bill to taxpayers was more than £5,000. Mark Guard, 44, had to appear at two separate hearings before the ...
by freefromrats
Aug 20, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Film maker taken to court for stealing 0.003p of electricity
Replies: 0
Views: 794

As for trying to introduce a new criterion - the time period since conversion Hmmm. That's interesting. Perhaps I can include the rapes and murders that Muslim converts committed before they converted to Islam in prison? No? I didn't think so. but it is interesting to see you preparing your defense...
by freefromrats
Aug 20, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

I suppose I should get cracking on those numbers, but to get a quick look at what I'm dealing with here, I found some article that says between 15%-20% of all prisoners in the US are Muslim: The cumulative effects of Islamist recruitment in the U.S. penal system are as stunning as they are ominous. ...
by freefromrats
Aug 22, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

Sorry to interrupt, this is interesting reading but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. There is fundamental difference between a terrorist who happens to be religious and one who carries out acts because of their religion. This will make it a lot easier for you to tally up the numbers. It is cle...
by freefromrats
Aug 22, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

^Actually, I agree (and have commented before) that the Iranian thugs are taking a leaf out of the Israeli playbook when they attack unarmed protestors. And I agree with your sentiments that the Yanks should stay out of the Middle East - but fat chance of that given the oil that is there! ;) Cheers...
by freefromrats
Aug 22, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Killing civilian was 'act of war'!
Replies: 12
Views: 1873

PEOPLE WHO CHOSE ISLAM

CAPTAIN (JACQUES) COUSTEAU (French) [In France Islam has been spreading at a high velocity among people who have made fame in various areas. The number of people who have abandoned Christianity and chosen Islam have reached one hundred thousand already. This score has been confirmed by the Archbish...
by freefromrats
Aug 23, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: PEOPLE WHO CHOSE ISLAM
Replies: 1
Views: 1103

Re: 4 Phillipines Converted to Islam in Dubai

uaebadoo wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBlNp8ZL8x8&feature=related


Masha'Allah

We need all the new Muslims we can get.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/ ... 32570.html
by freefromrats
Aug 24, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 4 Phillipines Converted to Islam in Dubai
Replies: 7
Views: 1818

London Teen: How I Was Recruited for Jihad

The Islamists approached him in the mosque, and before he knew it a 15-year-old Londoner was watching jihadist videos and being encouraged to train in Pakistan, the boy tells the Times of London in the “first inside account” of the recruitment process. “A lot of people think that terrorists are rec...
by freefromrats
Aug 24, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: London Teen: How I Was Recruited for Jihad
Replies: 4
Views: 1377

And just to clarify, we need to count all those who commit crimes AFTER they converted I see that someone is changing their parameters *after* this was already pointed out. Anyways, I look forward to your data which now includes what I've already asked for several posts ago. Tony Blair converted to...
by freefromrats
Aug 24, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

Report: Hamas executed opponents inside ambulances

PPA is saying that Hamas executed several injured members of Jund Ansar Allah as they were being transported to the hospital via ambulance. I understand that Islam allows for the murder of POWs, Muhammad and the rightly guided caliphs carried out massacres and Islamic law allows for it, but I wonder...
by freefromrats
Aug 24, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Report: Hamas executed opponents inside ambulances
Replies: 0
Views: 842

I agree with you that nations and groups (such as Hamas engaging in torture and executions), Islamic insurgents in Algeria, Afghanistan, and Iraq massacring Muslim civilians, and the dictatorships/theocracies saturating the Muslim world can only be blamed on the Israelis. I mean, it's not like ruler...
by freefromrats
Aug 24, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Killing civilian was 'act of war'!
Replies: 12
Views: 1873

ANILA — Police said Tuesday they had arrested the head of a group of Islamist militants behind a deadly bombing in the Philippines capital, who also plotted attacks against US targets. Dino Amor Pareja, the leader of the Rajah Solaiman Movement, a group of Christians who had converted to become Isl...
by freefromrats
Aug 25, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

Nice try at trying to shift the onus on me - you are the one that came up with the criteria and you are the one that we are waiting to produce your final count. Not at all. I previously mentioned this and said that the previous actions of a convert should *not* be included. You seemed to have a pro...
by freefromrats
Aug 25, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223

Child bride turned over to 80-year-old husband

AL-LAITH: A 10-year-old bride was returned last Sunday to her 80-year-old husband by her father who discovered her at the home of her aunt with whom she has been hiding for around 10 days. A local newspaper said the husband, who denies he is 80 in spite of claims by the girl’s family, accused the a...
by freefromrats
Aug 26, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Child bride turned over to 80-year-old husband
Replies: 14
Views: 2330

Re: Child bride turned over to 80-year-old husband

Nothing to see, move along. Legal Age A female can get married in New Hampshire USA : 13 Correct nothing to see move on Uh oh. It doesn't seem like desert is going to like this. What desert pasted is correct but, unfortunately, desertdudeshj chose to take the article he copy/pasted out of context: ...
by freefromrats
Aug 27, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Child bride turned over to 80-year-old husband
Replies: 14
Views: 2330

We can count the civilian victims of Blair's actions over the years Ok, you do that. Catholic prior to public conversion I'm not aware that there is a pre-conversion in Catholicism. Perhaps you can enlighten as to what that is and when this occurred. and publically converted Catholic. My guess is t...
by freefromrats
Aug 27, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13223
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