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as an austrlaian, im telling you right now the australian government will tell them to eat a fat one..... there is no way in earth they would send aussies there in such conditions with all due respect to anyone else, australian life is considered very dear... and we can totally understand if other c...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: India says Australia must tour Pakistan!
Replies: 50
Views: 5262

Sheikhmo wrote:Dubai is the World Class City of the future.

In 10 years all countries will look at Dubai and go WOW!



only it wont have enough inhibitants to make use of it, because everyone will be in all the other emirates because dubai became too f****'in much!
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: what is the full meaning of DUBAI?
Replies: 25
Views: 15100

intelligent music: inspiring, able to manipulate your mind and thoughts through soundscapes and intricate precussion.. engineered to create mood either happy or somber, deep or uplifting, driving or mellow.... no lyrics are ever needed - tracks and music speaks for itself if engineered correctly. i ...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Movies and Music Talk
Topic: intelligent music?
Replies: 11
Views: 3455

shafique, as much as i seem that im attacking - im not.. but muslims all around the world are trying to find answers to these questions from clerics - they are questioning logic.. It feels like you are just attacking. If you can just take the time and type out one question that relates to this thre...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

Your latest posts shows whilst you have left the religion of your fore-fathers (Coptic Christianity) you have a burning hatred of Muslims. quiet the contrary... i just dont like how they kill my countrymen.. not all are like that, some of my dearest friends are muslims... but they also admit to the...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

well in the case where the "wahy" landed on omar, not muhammad, because muhammad was in his house getting attacked by his women for his womanising.. i thought the wahy only landed on muhammad? or is there now another prophet in omar? so can the wahy land on anyone now? whats stopping me fr...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500

and which part of me saying that christians and jews do too - but not in a terrorist manner like islam does. and shafique i already commended your attitude, you're a very open minded person.. shafique, all the links above posted this morning, are all in english... i made sure they're all in english ...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

shafique have you even watched the above? it is in english im going to watch it one more time, maybe i was still asleep in the morning and i misunderstood edit: after watching it one more time - you most definatly have not watched it to give the above comment... watch the video where i say the wahy ...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500

dude give me a break..

watch the 2nd last link first before replying, you're insulting me otherwise.


it has nothing to do with satan or satanic verses.. watch then comment.

im assuming you didnt watch any of the others in the other thread either, i found english ones especially for you....
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500

the jizya is a tax - says shafique this is straight out of sahih abu harirya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTWTIzgKdY&NR=1 explaining the jizya.. your religion not mine my friend.. please explain. again, i find it puzzling, that you're a none-arabic speaker, and you seem to think you understa...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

:lol: :lol: too funny
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Found this forum
Replies: 22
Views: 3477

PS - if the moderator thinks im too much, please say so. i will cease completely.
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500

but the religion itself was and continues to spread from people choosing to convert. im assuming you also skipped over the video of the court case of the man that converted to islam, and then changed his mind and wanted to go back to christianity. and the western TV report regarding muslims wishing...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

Book 19, Number 3031 states that Muhammad captured Ukaydir, the Christian prince of Dumah, and spared his life and made peace with him on the condition that he paid jizya. so he spared his life, hows that not opened by the sword? this also validates what i said, no jizya = death also you quoted boo...
by ebonics
Feb 18, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

Flying Dutchman wrote:Ebonics, why don´t do us a favor and quote the verses here that contain a contradiction according to you. Then it´s much easier to follow for everybody and saves a lot of time...


lucky i took a day off then, you maybe in luck - if i find the right resources i need to quote everything in english.
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500

Yes, I know what Sahih is. I also know that not all Hadith in the Sahih are authentic and many are contradictory. I also know that in terms of authenticity the test is : 1. is it in accordance with the Quran 2. is it in accordance with Sunnah (practice of the Prophet, pbuh) 3. is it consistent with...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

you still havent answered me, have you watched the video about jizya, or you are still answering me without watching?
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

awesome - can someone please give me heads up here when something is going down...

i feel very under-stimulated musically at the moment - im going crazy.
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Movies and Music Talk
Topic: intelligent music?
Replies: 11
Views: 3455

The premise of this thread though is to explore whether Islam - i.e. the religion- was spread by the sword. you yourself just said muhammad spared someone's life - ie not killed him, on the condition of paying him some gold coins? so the sword would have been to his throat, with someone forcing him...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

im going to attempt to search and find this website myself, so the link is readily presented for any arabic reader to read and verify himself.
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

success........... Sura 9 verse 29 [29] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

and tafseer ibn katheer (as authenticated by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Da‘wah and Guidance) http://quran.al-islam.com/Tafseer/DispTafsser.asp?nType=1&bm=&nSeg=0&l=arb&nSora=9&nAya=29&taf=KATHEER&tashkeel=0 i think now you have n...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

Thanks ebonics - but you have not presented any information on the taxes that Muslims had to pay. I also think you will fail to produce a reference for jizya being set at 75% of income. Anyway, I await the references. [ps I have loads of links to videos that prove NASA didn't land on the moon, that...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

i will make a seperate thread to this, if shafique wants me to... but i will discuss it here first. Sura 25, verse 24 [54] It is He Who has created man from water: then has He established relationships of lineage and marriage: for thy Lord has power (over all things). before i get into this... i tho...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500

mate, i got you literal words - out of the most credible of credible sources.... Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Da‘wah and Guidance what better source do you want me to quote? no publication, no book, will compare to this - why are you avoiding my question? as far a...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

you're speaking the truth but im not making this up either... for the 5th time now. Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Da‘wah and Guidance this is the primary source of all islamic teachings of anyone, world wide.. so while your logic does make sense - why is this quote...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500

in the same vein of scandalous occurings. again, i could make a thread dedicated to this, but i will respect airing out dirty laundry and keep it confined here - it will go past with less attention that way. this was the incident that got me into all this in the first place... it was possibly one of...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500

Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Da‘wah and Guidance this is the primary source of all islamic teachings of anyone, world wide.. I think you need to check your facts. Cheers, Shafique are you being serious here??? where did islam come from? where did the qur'an origi...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500

if you quote me a credible source saying so - ill take it on board... and i dont understand what you mean by the saudi's not being the primary source of islam - thats the biggest oxymoron i ever encountered. this website, was made primaraly to promote islam to people - not to discredit it... i canno...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Replies: 73
Views: 9046

i would also like to highlight Al-Azhar University has a fatwa that officially sanctioned martyrdom operation with one condition only: martyrdom operations are only allowed in Israel. The university has had this ruling for a long time and has stood by it. i dont know how credible this is... this is ...
by ebonics
Feb 19, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Quran contains no contradictions - Discuss
Replies: 127
Views: 18500
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