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OK - I could not resist a quick Google. Interestingly, the top article that came out was: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21805283-663,00.html It says that the Dr Attya was suspended by the august institution of Al Azar university and that he recanted his fatwa. It is a bit strange t...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

ebonics - this article has more detail: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=ia&ID=IA35507 It details Dr Attiya's retraction and also documents why the Hadith/Fatwa goes against the Quran. Shame - I was hoping for some interesting comments on this topic. Cheers, Shafique but...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

for the kids playing at home: something that caused the azhar to suspend the cleric in question... more news reports of the incident http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=IA35507 excerpt from that if you are too lazy to read the whole thing - you tend to get lazier and lazier on me shafique, its st...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

ebonics - this article has more detail: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=ia&ID=IA35507 It details Dr Attiya's retraction and also documents why the Hadith/Fatwa goes against the Quran: [i] Dr. Abd Al-Fatah Asaker, who studies Muslim tradition, denied the validity of the ...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

regarding the doctor askar Dr. Sayyid Askar, a Muslim Brotherhood MP and former member of the Academy of Islamic Studies, said that the hadith on which the fatwa is based is indeed authentic and valid, but that the accepted view among Muslim scholars is that it refers to a specific case and cannot b...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

i may add that the collection is from sahih muslim, out of all sahihs.. ill let people research just how accurate is the compilation of sahih muslim's hadiths - and make their mind up. i appreciate you trying to bum-rush my argument shafique, but unfortunatly so far you're not doing a great job in d...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

keyword, claiming.... A guy makes a stupid fatwa, a guy retracts stupid fatwa. Scholars call fatwa stupid. may i correct you a guy makes stupid fatwa following the suna of an accurate and valid hadith public outrage takes place azhar admits its a valid hadith, but calls the fatwa stupid and irrelev...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

i may add that the collection is from sahih muslim, out of all sahihs.. ill let people research just how accurate is the compilation of sahih muslim's hadiths - and make their mind up. i appreciate you trying to bum-rush my argument shafique, but unfortunatly so far you're not doing a great job in ...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

But seriously, many hadith relating to Aisha need to be examined carefully - she was a hate figure amongst some Muslims and there are many defamatory hadith about her. Cheers, Shafique so is it safe to assume that the last hadith you quoted of aisha isnt accurate? i raise the question again, what e...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

on the above topic of compulsory hijab raised by freza an old muslim politician in jordan made the claim that the hijab was not what we know as the hijab today.... but merely a "hajeb" or a curtain, where the woman stands behind, when talking to a stranger... he continued to say that that ...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

ill retract my comment regarding the criticising

he criticised people who claim it is a FAREEDA for the hejab. - ie it is a must.
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

shafique in my "nekah" travels of trying to find you a literal meaning, i came across countless islamic resources that said masturbation is a very big sin, and that god curses every masturbator. Masturbation is mainly considered big sin among shia scholars. they wouldnt quote a hadith, if...
by ebonics
Mar 30, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Does Muhammad, pbuh, meet Biblical test of Prophethood?
Replies: 192
Views: 28946

what nucleus posted sounds accurate enough, only nika in the vulgur sense is derived from the one used in the quran... not from a different root word. the quran definatly never used the first one in its slang term, i never claimed so. the comment about god telling people sex is fine, did he really h...
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Does Muhammad, pbuh, meet Biblical test of Prophethood?
Replies: 192
Views: 28946

The wives of the Messenger [saw] have a unanimous agreement that the case was peculiar with Salim, and have denied the generalization. As such, was the ruling of the overwhelming majority of scholars. do you know that some people and sects practice this today? (in very backward areas) i fail to see...
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

ويظهر ولع العرب بالجنس في لغتهم التي احتوت على أسم...
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Does Muhammad, pbuh, meet Biblical test of Prophethood?
Replies: 192
Views: 28946

what nucleus posted sounds accurate enough, only nika in the vulgur sense is derived from the one used in the quran... not from a different root word. the quran definatly never used the first one in its slang term, i never claimed so. ebonics - you said that 'neek' was a slang word and was derived ...
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Does Muhammad, pbuh, meet Biblical test of Prophethood?
Replies: 192
Views: 28946

shafique wrote:
But for the record, I don't believe these are true Hadith.

Cheers,
Shafique



habib does, so does sahih muslim, and the azhar.


thats good enough for me :)

i should quote freza asking you do you ever step out and look in... because in this case, you're most definatly in denial.
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

so instead of f..k replace that with penetrate... really achieves the same result, its still beyond me why zawag isnt used. if you ask my fiance, and tell her God says: "penetrate two, three, four" and goes on to go "and whatever your right hand possessed" she'd back hand you wit...
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Does Muhammad, pbuh, meet Biblical test of Prophethood?
Replies: 192
Views: 28946

who doesnt. Christians could be wrong. Muslims could be wrong. answer to that is simple, i follow and believe in the one that is alive here & now, and beat death twice... the one that lived a pure life from start to finish. the other is dead, in a grave, and hardly free of sin. choice was never ...
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

lets lighten things up a bit - Al kazafy's words

i dont think i ever laughed as hard at any comedian, as i did at this man.. how is he a president of a country, is beyond me, he actually surpasses good ol georgie in the stupidity department his addressing at the arab summit that was on yesterday, even had the king of qatar in stitches... anyway, m...
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: lets lighten things up a bit - Al kazafy's words
Replies: 0
Views: 1137

Groundhog day! you're an expert in putting words in my mouth, i do not fully agree with what nucleus said - i said for the most part it is true, and i still maintain it means penetrate in the s.e.xual sense IN A LITERAL WAY. not mary, then penetrate... stop taking me away from work shafique!
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Does Muhammad, pbuh, meet Biblical test of Prophethood?
Replies: 192
Views: 28946

shafique wrote:And yet you abandoned Christianity and don't believe in following all the teachings of the Coptic Church.


that part, is totally, none of your concern or business.

i already stated i believe in jesus, but not religion as we know it today.
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: for habib; opinion on this hadith
Replies: 41
Views: 7479

once retired, visit every corner of the earth, travel till you cant walk yourself through customs at an airport no more.
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Retirement and Life
Replies: 8
Views: 1475

i hope she continues on her path and grows up to spread her knowledge and touch every life she crosses path with - it is a great feeling to have such successful offspring.

congratulations and best of luck for her future.

PS - start applying for scholarships.
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: My Daughter Just Graduated Valedictorian!
Replies: 31
Views: 6562

id say report the entire incident to the cops. also make sure the dog finds a good home - if proven that the owner actually did this. and of course good work saving the poor pooch.... but like ian said, the owner may have nothing to do with it, however it maybe partly the owners fault in the neglige...
by ebonics
Mar 31, 2008
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Someone tied a dog's legs together...
Replies: 16
Views: 3154

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by ebonics
Apr 01, 2008
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Someone tied a dog's legs together...
Replies: 16
Views: 3154

the air you breath these days causes cancer... if you're going to go cautiously about everything, you will live a very sheltered vial life. the article talks about processed meat, which in the middle east is replaced by turkey/chicken/beef in various forms... and since chicken farms in the middle ea...
by ebonics
Apr 01, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: sausages/bacon cancer risk
Replies: 59
Views: 6356

agree ebonics - I try to avoid all mechanically processed meats. Interestingly the article seems to single out processed pig meat products - and this is in a UK tabloid paper (that is quite right wing). The sausages and bacon tend to include nitrates/nitrites (or something similar) which some say a...
by ebonics
Apr 01, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: sausages/bacon cancer risk
Replies: 59
Views: 6356

i should add, the spanish have a rediculous diet of processed pork products, probably to rival the brits.. but they have a longer life expectancy that actually INCREASES, and people are generally a lot healthier.. current life expectancy in spain is 79.78 years. its got more to do with how they live...
by ebonics
Apr 01, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: sausages/bacon cancer risk
Replies: 59
Views: 6356

this guy just tried to add two different velocities of two different objects travelling at two different accelerations together...
by ebonics
Apr 01, 2008
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Scientific Proof to the Existence of God
Replies: 8
Views: 2136
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