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I love the question mark: 'May God bless you and your good family? '

I think the inference should be that God looks after those who look after themselves, and not idiots who wire large sums of money to unknown Africans

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Where's Harry, couldn't make it?

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Although there have been rumors that Ataturk’s mother was Jewish, popular belief is that he was a Muslim. The rumor was created by the followers of sharia who are against Atatürk and his reforms. They resist new Turkey. There is no proof that he was a Jewish and none of the six biographies of him t...

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I love the cat pics :) It's like walking through a mall and getting a smell of Cinnabon, just makes my stomach heave..... Turkish: 'You take sugar?' Bricktop: 'No thank you Turkish, I'm sweet enough.' http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2000_Snatch./Thumb/000SNC_Alan_Ford_005.jpg

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^^^loves to scratch the fence

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Religion? I completely agree with you....

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What do you do when someone says to you when breaking up 'you were right, we could be lovers, but never friends'. No chance to end on a nice note there!! Oh well...

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I prefer proper relationships...anyway, 3500 miles away...bit difficult to be friends with benefits

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^^^well it has to match my nail polish

the pbm has eaten too much.

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WhiteJade wrote::roll:

Break between battles.

Trying to start it up again three weeks later??

Honestly....

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^^^has no de-fence

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Turkey will be very much an unwanted partner in the EU , if it weren't for its geographical importance I guess they might still be waiting for talks to even start. Their human rights record will be an embarassment but Europe would love to have more of a territorial buffer against the hardline Islam...

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Wait, you seem to imagine I am talking about a military threat. Where did I say that? I am thinking of far more insidious 'invasions', cultural and religious. Trust you to get the war-like idea in your head

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All you are doing is agreeing with me. I said: Are they just being 'strung along' for as long as the EU can, it's practically a totally Islamic country? And you admit that territorial advantage exists in having Turkey in the EU, but that in its current state Turkey's membership of EU can't be accept...

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^^^causes no offence

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We are not quarreling even though you called my views bullshit :roll: My point was that EU would like the territory but Turkey's human rights record will stop it from happening any time soon. You also pointed out that free movement of population will cause even more trouble. Also I didn't mention it...

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As I said we are not disagreeing, I didn't comment on the inclusion of ex-soviet countries in the EU, you have a point that they were accepted despite their faults for reasons nothing to do with 'economic union'. But I don't believe Bulgaria has as bad a record as Turkey in any way, and that's not e...

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I would like to think that Turkey is not a ‘totally Islamic’ country but rather ‘not totally secular’ one; it’s a tricky balance trying to figure out how a non-Arab Muslim country should be like..? It's not totally Islamic and it wants to be secular (or the majority of the elite seem to understand ...

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Red Chief wrote:BB,
Let us discuss point, not persons. Probably your well upbringing and poor childhood in Br@@@ doesn't allow you to follow some rules but at least try. We are not there.

Brazil?

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NATO is totally another issue. It was and is a military instrument for infuence of US in the World, mostly against Russia. In this case Turkey has some value. It was you that mentioned NATO. I presumed you meant that the EU had some moral debt to Turkey because of its longstanding membership. Turke...

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^^^stuffed toy needs a rabbit-proof fence.

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Hungarian Sarcozy has told directly that EU should cancel this discussion. I think his partner Ms. Merckel from DDR shares his position. There were a lot of promises had been given before sudden collapse of Eastern Block. Nobody waited for it. Actually EU don't want even the empty discussions. P.S....

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I heard that the people of many ex-soviet states wished the return of USSR. Mostly the poorer, country people I imagine. Is this true of Ukraine peasant people, or even in Kiev itself? Seems that you are correct, with the dragging on of Turkey's application for a lot of years, EU membership now is n...

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For interest: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121997087258381935.html AUGUST 29, 2008 Will Turkey Abandon NATO? By ZEYNO BARAN Will Turkey side with the United States, its NATO ally, and let more U.S. military ships into the Black Sea to assist Georgia? Or will it choose Russia? A Turkish refusal wo...

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In his book ‘Breaking of Nations’ Robert Cooper, -formerly a special adviser to T.Blair- argues that EU represents the most advanced case of a "postmodern" global order with no national boundaries, conflicts are settled, not by war, but through negotiations and even court cases. The quest...

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Misery Called Life wrote:Am so bored and sleepy rit now. Need to be studying derivatives!

Oh, you want to be the cause of the next economic crisis eh???

Here buy my mortgage debt from my lender, I can't afford to pay it so you'll get it nice and cheap! :d

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^^^in the unicycle program

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The joys of Spring(s)?

Sorry....

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sounds like the lost page from the Sermon on the Mount.....

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goddamn derivatives sh*t, want to know why you're paying so much at the pumps? (OK in the UAE we're not....).

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