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War and conflicts are determental to openness, because nations and people start to operate in defensive mode. Not sure it was better for Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt; it is too early to tell. But in the Gulf, except Qatar things have taken some steps back. Hopefully, it is temporary and things will res...

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Not sure if it ok, but one of my friend is using that. So far it is working.

Nucleus

I think many Middle Eastern countries have had problems with openness because they are not democratic. But Gulf countries had more opennes to them even though they are not democratic, which has taken some steps back after some fears of national security issues excluding Qatar. Singapore is democrat...

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My point was war and conflict usually degrades the openness, because nation or people go into defensive mode rather than thinking through. Look at what is happening in US of A. The documantry above does highlight that point and hence some politicians would rather want wars going on, and if there are...

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But men don't wear burqa's because their virtue is never in question and apparently men can't feel closer to god by hiding under a sheet with only eyes peeking out, only women can. If men start to wear something like Burka would it make a difference. Arabic traditional dress of men is close, just t...

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But women in the West aren't jailed for being raped, or considered unmarriable, or even married off to their rapists. That doesn't happen in Turkey either. And women who kill their rapists don't bring their heads to the town square and tell the men not to play with their honour, or say they are &qu...

Nucleus

You really need to face the facts that too many countries are trampling on the human rights of their women. What facts I've denied when I said society needs to work on removing the stigma from rape victims? no one wants to discuss why there is an obsession with a woman's se.xual honour in some cult...

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kanelli wrote:What steps do you think need to be taken to help remove the stigma?

Educate the society about rape victims, and causes of rape; remove the stigma like Prophet (pbuh) did in early society for similar issues like birth of daughters, marriying widows, etc...

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Two main reason I had in mind when I said that. 1) One person doesn't respect the right of other person and forced the victim into something they didn't want to do. So it is not the fault of the victim. 2) Victim comes into threat, but best chance of avoiding is to run or do something against it. An...

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Not sure how to categorize it. People do things under threat, when running or going against it has better chance for safety.

Nucleus

evitav wrote:Is a good muslim wife allowed to "go against" her husband's sexual desires or unwanted sexual intercourse?

What you mean?

Nucleus

Rape is a crime; and like any other crime, one can discuss its causes till the cows come home! From normal people blinded by momentary lust to psychopaths getting their high from dominating a woman by force, and everything else in between! I guess cause wasn't the right choice of word. I was thinki...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BuU0a9OqXM

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Nucleus

Honor was mentioned but word honor doesn't really imply much. How it should have been according to you?

And arn't we missing the guy from this discussion that guy might have been very bad person, who blackmailed her?

Nucleus

You can also blame non-muslim honor killings on Islam "in Brazil until 1991 wife killings were considered to be non-criminal 'honor killings'; in just one year, nearly 800 husbands killed their wives. Similarly, in Columbia, until 1980, a husband legally could kill his wife for committing adult...

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Nucleus posted a blog of one Muslim convert living in Saudi Arabia and she was upset that other covered women were ogling her handsome husband. They stared, giggled, flirted and even offered their number! Where? I don't remember that one. --- Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:00 pm --- From religious point of vie...

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How do they know they will be viewed as more virtous and closer to god? Did they just pull those notions out of a hat? I don't agree with it since they can't perform hajj with a veil or burka. But from religious pov they are wrong, but they are entitled to their opinion. I'm against their reasoning...

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If your daughter told you she wanted to walk around in a tank top and mini-skirt in Dubai because it is her right to dress how she pleases, would you support her choice, or would you push her to dress more conservatively? If she is grown up it would be her choice. Would you do the same if your daug...

Nucleus

Geez, I'm getting flashbacks to EH and FD who criticised my intelligence when I didn't agree with their point of view. Intelligence issue didn't cross my mind, but now :P j/k I'm coming from, it appears you are not reading what we are saying. So many times you have repeated the same thing, even tho...

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kanelli wrote:I think the same could be said for people walking around naked and saying it makes them closer to god.

There are some religions that have that in their religious rites like that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyclad_(Neopaganism)

Nucleus

I disagree that it wasn't said or implied by other's comments. I can provide quotes should you like to see the evidence. Sure, but implied can be interpretation, and is not something on objective basis. Going by that logic anybody can interpret anything to imply something based on bias, preconceive...

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Yes, but if a small number of those people wanted to walk around naked in Dubai or any Western city for that matter, they would be challenged. There would be calls for bans, and people would not want to accommodate their form of "religious freedom" because it conflicts with values in the ...

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Nucleus, like I said, culture and religion need to be teased apart to get to the root of what is being used as an excuse to condone how women are treated. It is too absract, I can't figure out what you mean as solution in there. The question still stands - why are men so obsessed with a woman's se....

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I guess I'll bring one more story leave the discussion to Shaf with EH: Faten Habash's murder was unusual because she came from the Christian minority in the Palestinian territories. Her desire to marry a young Muslim, Samer Hamis, so infuriated her family that the couple decided to elope to Jordan....

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http://blueabaya.blogspot.com/2012/08/l ... ggles.html

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I'm puzzled by this comment. Is this your explanation for some people's obsession with a woman's se.xual honour and why if she "dishonours" her family she deserves to be killed/jailed/married off? Discussion is all over the place, the story posted in the OP this is not this case. It happe...

Nucleus

If women are being told by the Imam or those in their society that they have to shroud under loose sheets of cloth (face showing or not), while the men walk around in t-shirts and shorts, that is oppression because it is an unfair double-standard. The burden is on the women to dress in a certain wa...

Nucleus

If you give a specific instance where I have misinterpreted, please let me know and I can provide quote and we can discuss from there Here: We've already had discussions on this forum when Muslim men have concluded that men can't control themselves http://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai-chat/what-with-so...

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No matter who has the wealth or the higher education, mistreating a spouse simply because you hold some kind of power over them is not fair. There should be equality and team-work. That is my opinion too. A question from me. Would you consider Breivik case honor related? I'll quote relevant part be...

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I saw men in swim trunks on the beach while their wives were in an abaya or niqab sitting and watching from the sidelines and not enjoying a swim themselves. That is usually for families from gulf, women are highly conservative. But here swimsuit on the beach is allowed, and those who are not conse...

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