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According to the Quran, the reason why Muslim women should wear an outer garment when going out of their homes is that they may be recognised as "Believing" women and differentiated from streetwalkers for whom sexual harassment is an occupational hazard. That seems out of historical conte...

Is that about only the face veil or outer garment as well? The whole thing. That verse came for a sepecific situation that was happening in Madina, it is not a general directive. The logic can be extended to other similar situations, but that is a judgement call. --- Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:34 am --- I'...

^^ of course. Now back to my question: is it my fault or not (if somebody steals my money in that situation)?

evitav wrote:Theft is a thieves fault

Wasn't difficult was it?

European wrote:Nucleus, do you think most Muslim men think like you? It would explain the cases of child rape that occur in my country by gangs of Muslim men.

huh? what this has to do with rape?

--- Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:10 am ---

European wrote:Is Nucleus saying that if women wear little or revealing clothing they deserve to be raped?

I'm not saying that, but responses do show prejudice. Or some people here just assume things.

European wrote:It would appear that you are saying that men can help themselves to anything on show.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I suppose you mean can't help themselves? Taking my analogy of my wallet, so if I show my fat wallet full of money, people can't help themselves and steal it? That is your opinion?

evitav wrote:Didn't know it would upset you.

haha, another one

I now see what you're saying, yes full body can be covered by ordinary one piece dress or suit that is loose and not transparent , but that would restrict ladies choice of fashion and versatility,so if they opt for wearing outer garment then that would give them freedom to dress any way they like i...

If you are an atheist I think you should, go on lady, go and get them as many as you could please, if he too is an atheist then it is double bingo don forget your only chance of pleasure is what you have here in this world, you don't even know if you're gonna last until tomorrow, so go out now, sta...

troll in another topic.

Imagine this scenario - Some women run around and drug good looking men and anally rape them. It would be their fault because they tempted women to do it, right? No it won't be their fault. As for my wallet analogy I'll make it simple. (1) If I openly display it with lots of money in it and somebod...

And what has this verse got to do with our chatter and how do you think I am harassing ladies here. I'm giving the histotical context of that verse, like I said verse isn't exactly about dress code but it is addressing specific situation created by the hypocrites at that time for muslim women. Plea...

Muslims are rarely funny Nucleaus. :roll: --- Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:04 am --- It is disturbing that 4 (maybe just 2) people couldn't answer the analogy without making abscure reference to rape; Berrin, took the verse personally on himself; 1 or more hypocritical about complains while they themselves a...

Women are regularly blamed for their own harassment and rape. "She put it all on display." "She was walking in the wrong place/alone." If the bar is set that a woman who shows her face, hands and feet is not covering herself enough to protect her virtue, that means that any woma...

I hope this law changes, it doesn't make any sense. It is going back to the old rule again which was changed after the air crash.

Yea, I wonder who makes these rules in the govt departments.

jackpott wrote:Nobody deserves to get rapes.

Where did I say anybody deserves that? Learn to read please, moron!

kanelli wrote:After all, they'd rather see women more covered than less.

Not true for everyone.

I think the more devout Muslims, no? No, in hajj veil is not allowed. Face must be open in hajj. In our group, there was a woman who prefered to wear veil, but since in iharam face should be open, it was not easy for her. Good for her, major state of ihram can be minimum up a day and few ours, and ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfMwlzNKTbQ

Amazing! Part after @50mins, the connection with God was esp touching.

You want Western countries to accept women wearing the burka Where? Other article was not about west. I'm fully supportive of laws saying that women (and men) must not expose too much skin in public in the UAE (needs to be properly described though, so people can dress accordingly), and also suppor...

how about supporting women in the Middle East choosing to wear tank tops and shorts in public? I'm fine with it to a certain level. But if something is borderline naked, I don't want to see other peoples private stuff/under-garments it is just gross. By the way, there is difference between walking ...

Nucleus, if you want to think the Middle East is at risk of being invaded by Western military forces because women like Mona Eltahawy But in history it has been used to drum up support for invasion from native amerians to afghanistian, so it will definitatly cause fear and caution. Mona Eltahawy sp...

kanelli wrote:Men should know that women enjoy looking at handsome men, and have lustful thoughts when they see them.

Muslim men are supposed to have modest attire too.

In the analogy the person who said it (was it Berrin?) would have to say that the theif wasn't at fault or that theft is ok. It was me and I didn't say it encourages I said it is better to be careful. There is a difference between encouraging and careful, K totally changed the meaning. The two exam...

intercepting_fist, welcome!

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