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People people people.. just go through the posts again.. and u can see how much religions have already costed us..

Any one.. just tell me.. is this the reason y religions where created..
Religions, let it be Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Budhism... they all were created to unite people..and look what has it done to us now.. just look at all of us.. think how much detest, how much trouble it has brought us(only if u think as i think, beyond the limits, limits and frames n rules set on to everyone of us from the day were born, through out these days of living) ..
If u look at any religion, apart from Ancient religions.. all of the new religions were brought to unite people.. under one roof, one faith .. and they served their purpose very well at that time.. all the religions did their job to the perfection in their geographical locations..

untill the world shrunk and people of different religions are mixed again..
now its getting back to the same old days of people fighting over religions.. imbalance in money, power etc... just think men.. dont u get the picture..y religions were formed.. this is the same reason y religions were formed.. have faith in God.. no one stops u... but its time for a new religion.. a new prophesy.. a new world religion.. a religion driven by peace ,compassion and respect.

?Men are u not ashamed to say hindu's were killed muslims were killed.. i'd say Human beings were killed and are getting killed everyday..we belong the same species.. . for god's sake stop this yelling on the name or religion.. i'm sorry that i posted this question.didnt think it would end up like this..


I'm always a believer and supporter of one religion i'd call that human..
never ever differentiate people..

As Muslims we have submitted ourselves to Allah, thus when Allah Ta'ala forbade marriages with disbelievers ,we have to obey, regardlesss of whether we understand it or not.

Belief in Allah is the very essence and pivot of the life of a Muslim,

In addition to this, bringing up the children according to Islam would be difficult if not impossible, as they would be confused when it comes to religion as there will be a huge difference between the religions of their parents.

I don't think religion is the sole cause of trouble and hate... I think if your a decent person you accept and respect another human beings choice. I have nothing against a regular Jewish person I meet...

In this day and age, I think greed is the main cause of hate and conflict.

Outside of marriage stuff, do arab girls get out with non-arab guys ?

i have friends that are not arabs... but for dating and what not, i tend to stick to my arab boys, its easier that way.

bushra21 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:edit: Going back to the original topic, why can't a muslim woman marry a non muslim, but a muslim man can marry a non muslim woman?

a muslim man cannot just marry any non musilm woman. the woman has to be devout follower of the people of the book (christianity or judaisim -- which is how they are referred to in the quran)if the woman belongs to any other religion (hinduism, agnostic, buddhism and so on) he is not allowed to marry her.

i was told that the reason allah has made it acceptable for men to marry a non muslim woman (from the people of the book) is because originally, those two religions are similar to Islam, and if she is devout, she is following the basics of Islam as well. Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother.


and that is what i know, hope it helps.

So why can a Muslim man marry a Jew, or Christian woman, but a Muslim woman can't marry a non Muslim man?

"if the woman belongs to any other religion (hinduism, agnostic, buddhism and so on) he is not allowed to marry her."

Religion is horrible

valkyrie wrote:

bushra21 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:edit: Going back to the original topic, why can't a muslim woman marry a non muslim, but a muslim man can marry a non muslim woman?

a muslim man cannot just marry any non musilm woman. the woman has to be devout follower of the people of the book (christianity or judaisim -- which is how they are referred to in the quran)if the woman belongs to any other religion (hinduism, agnostic, buddhism and so on) he is not allowed to marry her.

i was told that the reason allah has made it acceptable for men to marry a non muslim woman (from the people of the book) is because originally, those two religions are similar to Islam, and if she is devout, she is following the basics of Islam as well. Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother.


and that is what i know, hope it helps.

So why can a Muslim man marry a Jew, or Christian woman, but a Muslim woman can't marry a non Muslim man?

"if the woman belongs to any other religion (hinduism, agnostic, buddhism and so on) he is not allowed to marry her."

Religion is horrible

delicious isnt it?

valkyrie wrote:

bushra21 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:edit: Going back to the original topic, why can't a muslim woman marry a non muslim, but a muslim man can marry a non muslim woman?

a muslim man cannot just marry any non musilm woman. the woman has to be devout follower of the people of the book (christianity or judaisim -- which is how they are referred to in the quran)if the woman belongs to any other religion (hinduism, agnostic, buddhism and so on) he is not allowed to marry her.

i was told that the reason allah has made it acceptable for men to marry a non muslim woman (from the people of the book) is because originally, those two religions are similar to Islam, and if she is devout, she is following the basics of Islam as well. Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother.


and that is what i know, hope it helps.

So why can a Muslim man marry a Jew, or Christian woman, but a Muslim woman can't marry a non Muslim man?

"if the woman belongs to any other religion (hinduism, agnostic, buddhism and so on) he is not allowed to marry her."

Religion is horrible

well I guess answer was provided .... u call urself secular yet u jump and threathen other religions.....as long as they dotn afect u why give a damn? if a musl woman loves a man they will solve the problem among themselves.recently one of my jewsih freidn fell in lov with an arab lady but when he took her to his house, his mom vehemently opposed it and called her Gentile on her face. and they broke up after a month ...if their love would hve been strong they would have cut relations with their parents and done a civil marriage. It all depends on couple's choice

Well the argument is not really about religion but about power. Most religions are inert and benign. It's the control of the believers that causes most problems and issues.

Whilst these powers are self-elected and excersise control, in the name of God, without answering to the electorate whom they control then the prospect for peace are not good. Democracy is a threat to this control & power.

Most peaceful and prosperous nations separate mosque/church and state. Some had past civil wars to achieve this.

Democracy is a very poor form of government..but it's the best one we've got.

valkyrie wrote:

bushra21 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:edit: Going back to the original topic, why can't a muslim woman marry a non muslim, but a muslim man can marry a non muslim woman?

a muslim man cannot just marry any non musilm woman. the woman has to be devout follower of the people of the book (christianity or judaisim -- which is how they are referred to in the quran)if the woman belongs to any other religion (hinduism, agnostic, buddhism and so on) he is not allowed to marry her.

i was told that the reason allah has made it acceptable for men to marry a non muslim woman (from the people of the book) is because originally, those two religions are similar to Islam, and if she is devout, she is following the basics of Islam as well. Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother.


and that is what i know, hope it helps.

So why can a Muslim man marry a Jew, or Christian woman, but a Muslim woman can't marry a non Muslim man?

"if the woman belongs to any other religion (hinduism, agnostic, buddhism and so on) he is not allowed to marry her."

Religion is horrible

did you even read what i wrote...completely? the second paragraph explains why. if you had read it, you wouldnt ask that question.

and no, religion isnt horrible; its the people that are.

I must be blind, because you did not go further on to assert why a Muslim woman cannot marry a non Muslim man.


"i was told that the reason allah has made it acceptable for men to marry a non muslim woman (from the people of the book) is because originally, those two religions are similar to Islam, and if she is devout, she is following the basics of Islam as well. Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother."

valkyrie wrote:I must be blind, because you did not go further on to assert why a Muslim woman cannot marry a non Muslim man.


"i was told that the reason allah has made it acceptable for men to marry a non muslim woman (from the people of the book) is because originally, those two religions are similar to Islam, and if she is devout, she is following the basics of Islam as well. Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother."

how old are you....or do you have no common sense. if i said that the reason why it is ok for a muslim man to marry a woman who is from the people of the book because the children are more likely to follow the father's religion -- wouldnt it make sense that a muslim woman cannot marry a non muslim man because the children would be morelikely to follow the husbands religion, and not hers?

We all know that Muslim women have to follow very different rules than Muslim men. Some say it is still equality, while others would disagree...

bushra21 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:I must be blind, because you did not go further on to assert why a Muslim woman cannot marry a non Muslim man.


"i was told that the reason allah has made it acceptable for men to marry a non muslim woman (from the people of the book) is because originally, those two religions are similar to Islam, and if she is devout, she is following the basics of Islam as well. Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother."

how old are you....or do you have no common sense. if i said that the reason why it is ok for a muslim man to marry a woman who is from the people of the book because the children are more likely to follow the father's religion -- wouldnt it make sense that a muslim woman cannot marry a non muslim man because the children would be morelikely to follow the husbands religion, and not hers?

as I said common sense is not common these days........similar anology if it ringa bell val.....why is it women loose their maiden name after marriage? is she product or slave of man......cos old days slaves were named after their masters..same is the case here.....it has alwys been tradition that children always follow the father's religion...so women are prevented...... now please dont ask why did children follow dad's religion...

valkyrie wrote:

Bleakus wrote:

valkyrie wrote:"you can diss me but not my religion"

Why not? Muslims denigrate Judaism and Christianity. If I remember correctly the koran refers to Jews and Christians as apes and pigs. I won't tolerate intolerance, I'm as indignant of christian fascists who attack Homos.exuals as I am of Muslims.

So you spend your time find faults on all religions? If you disagree about a certain religion keep it to yourself? if you face people who are muslims that are constantly attacking...i mean day by day.....attacking other religions.....im not one of them? That does not give you the right to attack the quran and whats written in the quran, that includes muslims.

"you have a religion, and i have mine" lets keep it that way

News to me. Why can't a secular athiest criticize religion? If it offends your sensibilities then you should have criticized Islam before western athiests had to step in. My foremost concern is Christianity, and after that religion is destroyed than western athiests will turn their attention to the Muslim world. If there is anything left of Islam, western athiests will unite with our eastern athiest comrades and help dismantle the mysoginist, patriarchal religion of Islam.

edit: Going back to the original topic, why can't a muslim woman marry a non muslim, but a muslim man can marry a non muslim woman?

secular atheist.......criticize ....isnt it oxymoron word?

valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

may be different ppl are using the same nick like bugmenot dot com

kanelli wrote:We all know that Muslim women have to follow very different rules than Muslim men. Some say it is still equality, while others would disagree...

acually in most situations the woman has more rights than man. i know not everyone would agree with me, but its true

sniper420 wrote:

bushra21 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:I must be blind, because you did not go further on to assert why a Muslim woman cannot marry a non Muslim man.


"i was told that the reason allah has made it acceptable for men to marry a non muslim woman (from the people of the book) is because originally, those two religions are similar to Islam, and if she is devout, she is following the basics of Islam as well. Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother."

how old are you....or do you have no common sense. if i said that the reason why it is ok for a muslim man to marry a woman who is from the people of the book because the children are more likely to follow the father's religion -- wouldnt it make sense that a muslim woman cannot marry a non muslim man because the children would be morelikely to follow the husbands religion, and not hers?

as I said common sense is not common these days........similar anology if it ringa bell val.....why is it women loose their maiden name after marriage? is she product or slave of man......cos old days slaves were named after their masters..same is the case here.....it has alwys been tradition that children always follow the father's religion...so women are prevented...... now please dont ask why did children follow dad's religion...

in islam the woman keeps her name and family name

Is that what you were saying?

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

alina_4u wrote:

valkyrie wrote:That's kind of dumb that a non muslim man can't marry a muslim woman.

Isn't that a kind of discrimination, like an african man can't marry a white woman even if they love each other?

no its not discrimination... its a religion and thats how it works....

And if he loves her, it shouldn't be a problem for him to convert

you love someone for the person, doesn't matter what colour or religion. You love someone because you love the way she/he is, why do you want to change him/her? if she/he changed then is not the someone you love anymore.

FeiPo wrote:

alina_4u wrote:

valkyrie wrote:That's kind of dumb that a non muslim man can't marry a muslim woman.

Isn't that a kind of discrimination, like an african man can't marry a white woman even if they love each other?

no its not discrimination... its a religion and thats how it works....

And if he loves her, it shouldn't be a problem for him to convert

you love someone for the person, doesn't matter what colour or religion. You love someone because you love the way she/he is, why do you want to change him/her? if she/he changed then is not the someone you love anymore.

I disagree here, you love them and all but what about the future?? The kids? Which religion are you going to teach them?? It is nice and rosy saying if you love someone it does not matter. Colour or race, nationality etc does not matter in my opinion but religion does matter big time. All your life you believed something and you want to teach your child what you believe but if the dad does not believe the same, the children will be in a mess.

Bleakus wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

can i help?

Oh! and can we make a stop at someone elses place to...i believe he said he was living in qatar or kuwait and his dad was a sheikh...shouldnt be too hard....

sara_uk wrote:

FeiPo wrote:

alina_4u wrote:

valkyrie wrote:That's kind of dumb that a non muslim man can't marry a muslim woman.

Isn't that a kind of discrimination, like an african man can't marry a white woman even if they love each other?

no its not discrimination... its a religion and thats how it works....

And if he loves her, it shouldn't be a problem for him to convert

you love someone for the person, doesn't matter what colour or religion. You love someone because you love the way she/he is, why do you want to change him/her? if she/he changed then is not the someone you love anymore.

I disagree here, you love them and all but what about the future?? The kids? Which religion are you going to teach them?? It is nice and rosy saying if you love someone it does not matter. Colour or race, nationality etc does not matter in my opinion but religion does matter big time. All your life you believed something and you want to teach your child what you believe but if the dad does not believe the same, the children will be in a mess.

so true sara.....somethines i see this as main reason for breaking up

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

My point proven

bushra21 wrote:

Bleakus wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

can i help?

Oh! and can we make a stop at someone elses place to...i believe he said he was living in qatar or kuwait and his dad was a sheikh...shouldnt be too hard....

xoxoxoxox Bushra21

Can you look to see if I left my watch on your dresser?

xoxoxoxoxoxo

Valkyrie

valkyrie wrote:

bushra21 wrote:

Bleakus wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

can i help?

Oh! and can we make a stop at someone elses place to...i believe he said he was living in qatar or kuwait and his dad was a sheikh...shouldnt be too hard....

xoxoxoxox Bushra21

Can you look to see if I left my watch on your dresser?

xoxoxoxoxoxo

Valkyrie

yeah he had to come all the way from illinois to do that

sniper420 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

bushra21 wrote:

Bleakus wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

can i help?

Oh! and can we make a stop at someone elses place to...i believe he said he was living in qatar or kuwait and his dad was a sheikh...shouldnt be too hard....

xoxoxoxox Bushra21

Can you look to see if I left my watch on your dresser?

xoxoxoxoxoxo

Valkyrie

yeah he had to come all the way from illinois to do that

that just proves how good and worth it i am sniper

lol

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