What Is America's True Form Of Government

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What is America's True Form of Government Sep 24, 2010
This will open some eyes! I hope. 8)



The Founding Fathers knew...while most of us forgot. :wink:

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Re: What is America's True Form of Government Sep 25, 2010
Chomsky et al argue (convincingly to me) that the US is effectively an oligarchy (as defined in the clip - not according to the original Greek etymology - ;) ). Whilst the intention may have been a constitutional republic (and there is no doubt that the original constitution discriminated against women, slaves etc), the reality today is an oligarchy (or as the vid says - a tyranny of the elite).

Chomsky argues that the President can only come from a very selective set of people who are defined by the views/policies that they will enact. The nomination process just dresses up an oligarchy as a democracy or as a republic (as this video argues).

In practice, the electorate does not have a free choice of the candidate that they would choose - but have to effectively choose between the choices made for them - by those who do have real power. No, not necessarily zionists - but rather those with vested interests who control big business, media etc - not necessarily WASPS, just the monied classes.

That said, the vid is interesting for the historical insights - and certainly I agree that the founding fathers did not envisage a democracy as defined (but the US did end up with an oligarchy).

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Re: What is America's True Form of Government Sep 25, 2010
He-he, Aristocracy is the power of the best in Greek. Democracy is probably something opposite. :mrgreen: :D

I reread "Republic" recently and found slightly another meaning than in the video for grammer school though. :wink:

I would define America as Empire, just like Roman Empire, where many internal problems can be resolved due to dominant international status of US and its the strongest in the World Army. Own people have limited influence on politics because they are not productive force any more.
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Re: What Is America's True Form Of Government Sep 25, 2010
You said it like it is Shafique. Sadly true.

-- 25 Sep 2010, 22:32 --

Little update: See what a visionary this man (Ron Paul) was and still is...
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