Those Who Can, Do, And Those Who Can't, Bully

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Those Who Can, do, and Those Who Can't, Bully Mar 03, 2012
I tuned into DF this morning for a laugh, as I usually do, and found I have a thread dedicated to me. Wow! It was entitled BM Is Spiraling Out Of Control :P
I clicked in to it only to find it was Shafique wanting me to post about him. What a let down! There was me wanting to read about me, as the title suggested, only to find it was Shafique attention seeking again!
Damn!

The need for attention

Human beings are social creatures and need social interaction, feedback, and validation of their worth. The emotionally mature person doesn't need to go hunting for these; they gain it naturally from their daily life, especially from their work and from stable relationships. Daniel Goleman calls emotional maturity emotional intelligence, or EQ; he believes, and I agree, that EQ is a much better indicator of a person's character and value than intelligence quotient, or IQ.

The emotionally immature person, however, has low levels of self-esteem and self-confidence and consequently feels insecure; to counter these feelings of insecurity they will spend a large proportion of their lives creating situations in which they become the centre of attention. It may be that the need for attention is inversely proportional to emotional maturity, therefore anyone indulging in attention-seeking behaviours is telling you how emotionally immature they are.

Attention-seeking behaviour is surprisingly common. Being the centre of attention alleviates feelings of insecurity and inadequacy but the relief is temporary as the underlying problem remains unaddressed: low self-confidence and low self-esteem, and consequent low levels of self-worth and self-love.

Insecure and emotionally immature people often exhibit bullying behaviours, especially manipulation and deception. These are necessary in order to obtain attention which would not otherwise be forthcoming. Bullies and harassers have the emotional age of a young child and will exhibit temper tantrums, deceit, lying and manipulation to avoid exposure of their true nature and to evade accountability and sanction. This page lists some of the most common tactics bullies and manipulators employ to gain attention for themselves. An attention-seeker may exhibit several of the methods listed below.

Attention seeking methods

Attention-seeking is particularly noticeable with females so I've used the pronoun "she". Males also exhibit attention-seeking behaviour.

Attention seekers commonly exploit the suffering of others to gain attention for themselves. Or they may exploit their own suffering, or alleged suffering. In extreme forms, such as in Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy, the attention-seeker will deliberately cause suffering to others as a means of gaining attention.

The sufferer: this might include feigning or exaggerating illness, playing on an injury, or perhaps causing or inviting injury, in extreme cases going as far as losing a limb. Severe cases may meet the diagnostic criteria for Munchausen Syndrome (also know as Factitious Disorder). The illness or injury becomes a vehicle for gaining sympathy and thus attention. The attention-seeker excels in manipulating people through their emotions, especially that of guilt. It's very difficult not to feel sorry for someone who relates a plausible tale of suffering in a sob story or "poor me" drama.

Ring any bells? :?

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I describes you perfectly BM!
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kanelli wrote:I describes you perfectly BM!


I expected you sooner! Where have you been hiding?
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Are you actually admitting to hovering over this forum eagerly anticipating the next time I respond to one of your posts?
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kanelli wrote:Are you actually admitting to hovering over this forum eagerly anticipating the next time I respond to one of your posts?


Isn't that what you do?
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Umm, if I am away in long chunks and absences of days and weeks, the answer would be no. :D
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Re: Those Who Can, Do, And Those Who Can't, Bully Mar 03, 2012
You weren't banned for logging in under my name were you? :shock:
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Re: Those Who Can, Do, And Those Who Can't, Bully Mar 03, 2012
Nope, not at all. I only post as kanelli. You are free to ask Andyba about it. I don't use a VPN either, no need for basic computer use.
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kanelli wrote:I only post as kanelli


Are you sure?
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Yes, professor green! (And how many others do YOU have?) Like I said, if you don't believe me, ask Andyba to check the IP addresses for kanelli and whatever the other username was and he can confirm that it wasn't me. But that would burst your little fantasy about me being as unethical as you and perhaps make you feel slightly guilty for publishing my name on the forum in retaliation for something I DIDN'T DO.

Shaf can confirm that I asked for your name recently. Why would I PM him to ask him that if I already knew your name? And by the way, he doesn't know your name either or he would have given it to me. You made assumptions that he is DearJohn and he knows your name, but he isn't and doesn't. (I've PMed DearJohn too for your name.) To continue to make assumptions and take petty revenge without confirmation that your assumptions are correct is pure idiocy.
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Re: Those Who Can, Do, And Those Who Can't, Bully Mar 03, 2012
Gosh! look how much time you've wasted trying to find out my name when you could have been telling everyone what a jolly good well rounded human being you are!

I'm still surprised you haven't got it though!

Is it possible for one to be intelligent and a bit thick at the same time?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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And by the way, he doesn't know your name either or he would have given it to me

Now you're looking more desperate by the day!

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(I've PMed DearJohn too for your name.)

PMSL.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0CGsw6h60k&ob=av2e

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Mental abuse first and foremost is about control. Abusers have no control over their own pain and their self-loath, so they need to control others. They overcompensate their self-loath with malignant Narcissism. They can appear decent, charming, successfull and calm. They can be (highly) intelligent (IQ) and can hide their abuse very well. It is said Narc's have the EQ have a 6 six year old. It's a child trapped in an adult body. They are self absorbed, childish and full with double standards.
Abuse can be insidious and covert, especially with the passive aggresive ones. They will always resort to manipulations, lying and gaslighting to change YOUR reality, to disorientate you, to destabilize you, to control you. When caught in a lie, they manipulate their way out. They are stars at making YOU the abuser, and them the abusee. They need to be the victim, avoiding confronting themselves. Self-confrontation is near self-annihilation for hem (because of the lack of a strong core-self; they have an artificial non-authentic self). Besides that Narc's are too full of themselves, to consider they are the problem. A Narc will NEVER be cured. A Narc always need satelites that serves him/her, a Narc subsumes satelites for control. The more a (possible) satelite strays, the more the abuse will increase.

Nearly all abusers have a personality disorder.
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FD, it perfectly describes BM again.
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A Narc is constantly preying for objects to mirror his/her grandios self, graving for agreement.
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Title of thread should be: self-analysis.
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Re: Those Who Can, Do, And Those Who Can't, Bully Mar 04, 2012
I'm not the one who started a thred entitled 'BM is Spiraling Out Of Control' then invites comments about himself to be posted.

If that isn't attention seeking I don't know what is. LOL

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