The Arab Lobby In The US

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The Arab Lobby in the US Nov 10, 2010
http://www.meforum.org/2773/arab-lobby

I have always maintained that the Arab lobby is more influential than any other lobby in the US. This is a good article about it in the ME Quarterly, with some very interesting observations

Walt and Mearsheimer cavalierly dismissed the possibility that U.S. policy might be subject to countervailing influences by those who believe the national interest is best served by distancing the United States from Israel and cultivating ties with the Arab states. They are not alone. Many analysts have ignored or belittled the notion that an Arab lobby exists or has any influence.[5] Yet one need only look at the first year of the Obama administration to reject Walt and Mearsheimer's case. How can Obama's solicitous policy toward the Arabs and hostility toward Israel be understood if the Israel lobby is so omnipotent or if pro-Arab forces are nonexistent? While The Israel Lobby came out before Obama took office, one could as easily look to the hostility displayed toward Israel by the Eisenhower administration after the 1956 Suez War to see the fallacy of the hypothesis.
The term "Arab lobby" may be somewhat misleading because it suggests that the principal members are Arabs and that their focus is on the Arab world, but Arab Americans are only a small and mostly ineffective part of the overall lobby. Moreover, while one might think that the Arab lobby would reflect the interests of the various Arab states and the Palestinians, it has historically shown little sustained interest in other Arab countries or issues within those countries. The lobby does not campaign for human rights or better governance in any of these countries; does not defend women, Christians, or other minorities in Arab states; and does not even try to get aid for Arab governments. The only time any interest is shown in an Arab country is if Israel is involved as was the case in the recent Israel-Lebanon war when the lobby expressed great concern for the people of Lebanon. Prior to the event, the lobby never talked about issues such as the Syrian occupation, Hezbollah's takeover of the organs of government, the undermining of democracy, or the massacres perpetrated by Lebanese factions against each other.

One of the most important distinguishing characteristics of the Arab lobby is that it has no grassroots support. While the Israel lobby has hundreds of thousands of active members, and U.S. public opinion polls consistently reveal a huge gap between support for Israel and the Arab nations or the Palestinians, the Arab lobby has almost no foot soldiers or public sympathy.

The most powerful part of the Arab lobby is represented almost exclusively by Saudi Arabia and the corporate—especially oil companies—and diplomatic interests that view Saudi well-being as paramount to U.S economic and security concerns. No other Arab state has any representatives with even marginal clout; in fact, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) often is the most effective lobbyist for Israel's diplomatic partners Jordan and Egypt, supporting both governments' requests for aid and at least tacitly approving U.S. arms transfers.

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It is a shame that the 'Arab lobby' doesn't represent the wishes of the man-on-the-street in Arab countries - who pretty much want the oil wealth etc to be spread amongst the population and generally want their leaders to be less in the pocket of the US.

If the Arab lobby is defined (as above) as representing the Saudi regime and big oil - then it is indeed no surprise that there is no grassroots support.

But, I think this also means that the 'Arab lobby' is a misleading title - better call it the Saudi/Oil Co lobby.

I'd also have sympathy with the argument that Big Oil is the strongest lobby group in the US - but I think it is a bit like the tail wagging the dog to say that the Saudis have the biggest influence. The Saudis are in the pockets of big oil, I'd argue. When did the Saudis use their influence to help Arabs in general or Palestinians in particular?

The pro-Israel lobby does succeed in getting the US to send arms and aid to Israel. The Saudis buy arms.

What is getting more grassroots support though is the anti-Israeli injustice groups. As defined, these are not 'Arab lobby' groups - and nor should they be. They are more accurately called pro-Palestine groups.

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shafique wrote:What is getting more grassroots support though is the anti-Israeli injustice groups. As defined, these are not 'Arab lobby' groups - and nor should they be. They are more accurately called pro-Palestine groups.


Part of the interesting observations in the article is that you never hear them about stuff like:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/on-the-inside-gazas-prison-for-collaborators-20101029-177j7.html

The director of Gaza's new maximum security prison, Suleiman is proud of the facility that he says is the territory's first prison to be built by inmates.

''We do not practice any torture here,'' he says. ''That takes place at the interrogation centre, before people are convicted.''
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You are right FD - the grass-roots support for the Palestinians is not affected by these stories.

They do indeed focus more on what the Israelis do to the Palestinians - I guess the reasoning is that you focus on the bigger evil and don't blame those who are living under occupation. That and Israel's track record of crying wolf, I guess.

As for the so-called Arab Lobby - don't you agree that it is a misleading label and what you define as an Arab lobby is really a 'Saudi and Big Oil' lobby?

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Thats indeed one of the things the article mentions: the Arab lobby isnt interested in human rights at all, its just anti...if it were pro-Palestinian we would indeed see concerns over the treatment of Pali's in Lebanon, where they are kept in the camps, or in any other Arab country for that matter.

Now, one can argue whether or not human rights are in the interest of the US.
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Re: The Arab Lobby in the US Nov 13, 2010
I amused that you're avoiding the question about whether labelling the Saudi/Big Oil lobby as the 'Arab Lobby' is misleading or not.

I'm not surprised that the Saudi and Big Oil have their own interests at heart and aren't really interested in Human Rights.

Trying to insinuate that this is an 'Arab' lobby is funny though.

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Re: The Arab Lobby in the US Nov 27, 2010
FD - the title for this post while attracting readers is incorrect. I think you and article that you refer to is just talking about the oil lobby. Arabs don't have any lobbying power in washington or at least nothing like wall street, the oil/power companies and healthcare/pharma groups do. In the days of good old Bush the oil lobby certainly had the loudest voice -- anybody that has read about the Bush family know their association to oil groups and companies they have owned like Harken as well others. Even now their voice is pretty loud....after all any succesful lobby needs to have $$£££ and they are not short of that.
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Re: The Arab Lobby In The US Nov 27, 2010
Speaking of lobbyists - I watched 'Casino Jack' today - with Kevin Spacey.

Pretty funny, and serious - and topical too - as refers to real people, including Tom DeLay!

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Have not seen it - will download immediately.
Completely off topic - spacey is great - he made me believe in kaizer soze.
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