Berrin wrote:Bora Bora wrote:Gee Berrin, I guess you missed several posts about Muslims wanting Sharia, Islamic law, incorporated into western laws. I would call that Muslims Islamitizing western countries. For as many Muslims who resent the westernizing in Muslim countries, there are that many more westerners who resent Muslims demanding Sharia, Islamic law, be recognized and practiced within western law, but then again they are just infidels aren't they?
But you ignore the fact that muslims want sharia for themselves. Christians do not have to incorporate sharia laws into their modern roman law. They can allow muslim minority to adapt sharia for their own governing however they wish. I see no wrong in that as democracy thrives on ideologies.
Also, Why do you blame imigrant muslims when you also have significant number of local converts growing and demanding sharia as well..Sharia is inseparable part of islam, by becoming muslim you accept it all as a whole. Accepting certain parts of islam and abandoning the rest of it is hypocrisy as you know..
Hey you know infidel is the common terminology of abrahamic religions? so who do you blame against whom?
In the real world, it's one law for all the people. Government is not comprised of only christians Berrin. Where do you get your info from?
I said Muslims, nothing about immigrants or converts. Immigrant or converts - they are still Muslims. If Sharia is inseparable from Islam, then those who want to live under Sharia should move to a country where the law of the land is dictated by Sharia. Saudi Arabia?? Egypt?? Yemen?? It's a big world Berrin. Why should a religious group in a western country be treated differently from everyone else who are expected to live by the law of the land? Why do they seek to be the exception? You see, in the US politics are not dictated by a holy book or religious belief. Separation of church and state.
I expect there will be the usual exodus from Dubai to the UK during Ramadan.
Then you have those good religious folk who will take their "side dishes" to the Ramadan tents in the evening. And all those poor folk who suffer from stomach problems and can't fast. And the great numbers showing up at the mosques on Friday - only during Ramadan. I see it year after year after year.
What a neat little way of calling me a hypocrite. I don't say one thing and practice another Berrin, unlike so many religious people do. When you see how many people "practice" Islam, it can be very discouraging to someone who had such high hopes to enjoy it in an Islamic country, not put off to it by so many hypocrites. I live my life by the basics of any religion Berrin. Beyond the basics, the rest is.......well, I'll leave it at that.
I don't trust anyone who is "religious" Berrin, regardless of their religion. I saw so many good Muslims that had to be in the first row at prayer on Friday thinking what? that being in the first row puts them closer to God and God will forgive them first! And then you have those who make Haj and Umrah asking for forgiveness for all the sins they committed in the past, and probably asking for advance forgiveness for the sins they will commit in the future, because when the "pureness" they felt from making the journey wears off, they are back to business as usual, which would usually be considered sinful - lying, greed, swindling people, cheating on their wife, the list is endless.
I had a relative who was a good Catholic, who went to church weekly, went to confession weekly, a real Christian woman - who was one of the most horrid individuals I every came across.
... I don't mind 
