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shafique wrote:^If Chuck Norris were a calendar, every month would be named Chucktober, and every day he'd kick your a.ss.
Now, can we get back to 'Sea of Stupidity'?
Rob, here's a line you may find useful in future:An old Israeli saying describing various less-than-esteemed military leaders says: “He was so stupid that even the other generals noticed.” The same derisive remark could be applied almost without exception to the present generation of Israeli politicians.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/patrick-cockburn-pr-dangerously-distorts-the-israeli-sense-of-reality-1988977.html
Flying Dutchman wrote:Lets focus on the story and how it develops.
Flying Dutchman wrote:Under international law it is permissible to attack neutral vessels on the high seas when the vessels “are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture.”
Israel notified the flotilla that their goods could still be transferred to gaza after a routine security inspection.
Israel could consider this as an act of war from Turkey.
Flying Dutchman wrote:An old Israeli saying describing various less-than-esteemed military leaders says: “He was so stupid that even the other generals noticed.” The same derisive remark could be applied almost without exception to the present generation of Israeli politicians.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/patrick-cockburn-pr-dangerously-distorts-the-israeli-sense-of-reality-1988977.html
At least the Israeli navy fights back when attacked. British navy just surrenders like wusses (like to Iran).
Israel and its supporters claim that Viva Palestina, made up of people who collect the donated food, cement and items for providing basic amenities such as toilets, and transport them to Gaza, wanted the violence all along. Because presumably they must have been thinking "Hezbollah couldn't beat them, but that's because unlike us they didn't have a ballcock and several boxes of plum tomatoes".
According to a senior officer, "Under the circumstances, and I do not like the result, I think we did the best we could. We took care of five ships without injuries. On the sixth ship, we faced a harsh attack and killed nine saboteurs.
"No real peace activist was injured. No soldier was killed, even though it came pretty close. In the end the ships are docked at Ashdod. It was very complicated and the result is near perfect."
shafique wrote:..and then cried about seeing terrorists with rifles before shooting 9 dead.
QUESTION: P.J., on – yesterday, I think we were talking about IHH and the accusations that it is part – it supports terrorist organizations. There were some who said it supported al-Qaida in some fashion. Did you get some clarification on that?
MR. CROWLEY: Well, we know that IHH representatives have met with senior Hamas officials in Turkey, Syria, and Gaza over the past three years. That is obviously of great concern to us. That said, the IHH, which stands for the Humanitarian Relief Foundation, has not been designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the United States.
QUESTION: So the U.S. does not believe it has connections to al-Qaida?
MR. CROWLEY: We cannot validate that.
Berrin wrote:Why Israel has nuclear weapon and Iran is not even allowed to have spare parts to repair its military aircraft?!!!!
Why is it that the arms race in the Middle East was started by the Israeli's and nobody is waging war against them for thier "WMDs"?
Why is Israel allowed to go on producing weapons of mass destruction and nobody is allowed to inspect them?
It's all started more than a century ago when zionist jews were getting wealth wise stronger both in Ottoman and European lands..Then of course when zion interests met economic/religious interests of the industrilising christian Europe/America led them to join their efforts to create a satellite state called Israel inside ME against the threat of growing Islam or islamic development. Basically it's all power and control game and still continues to this day so much so that uncontrollable israel is now about to become a thorn in their own flesh, as the west cannot stop neither ME nor Asia from development or self determined cooperations.
http://adnan-globalissues.blogspot.com/ ... -west.html
http://adnan-globalissues.blogspot.com/ ... ation.html
http://www.mpacuk.org/story/250110/ther ... islam.html
Military, politicos blame each other for botched Gaza flotilla raid
The politicians look at the bungled raid and see the cause in the operation's planning - in the Navy and faulty intelligence. The General Staff says it was Netanyahu and Barak who assessed the raid wouldn't raise such world reactions.
By Amos Harel
Tags: Gaza flotilla Benjamin Netanyahu IDF
Tensions are mounting between military and political leaders over the raid on the Turkish aid ship Mavi Marmara. Each side suspects the other of trying to blame it for the bungled operation and consequent crisis.
The kind of inquiry panel into the affair has not been decided, but the debates about it are upping tensions among the top defense and political echelons. Apparently, the favored idea is to set up a civilian, rather than a military, inquiry - with the possible participation of a foreign observer.
The politicians look at the bungled raid and see the cause in the operation's planning - in the Navy and faulty intelligence - so the naval commando lacked a proper understanding of the kind of confrontation awaiting the soldiers on deck.
The General Staff, however, says it was Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak who were complacent about the flotilla and assessed that the raid would not raise such world reactions. It appears that the debate in the seven ministers' forum was relatively superficial and did not go into the operation's details. Netanyahu was in Canada during the raid and cut his visit short following the international flaying brought on by the incident.
It has become obvious that cooperation among the various groups preparing for the flotilla's arrival was deficient. The Israel Navy and General Staff held dozens of advance meetings over weeks, but virtually none involved other relevant offices like the Foreign Ministry or government public relations experts.
Due to the restricted involvement, the IDF led the preparations not only for the operation itself but for all aspects. Israel Navy commander Admiral Eliezer Marom and the navy drafted the operation with the participation of Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi and his deputy, Major General Benny Gantz.
The insufficient intelligence for the operation is renewing the grumbles between the IDF leadership and the Mossad. The IDF says the espionage agency did not properly use its resources in gathering intelligence about the flotilla.
The General Staff's intelligence section will examine the possibility that intelligence that could have improved the Navy's preparation for taking over the ships was "stuck in the pipes" and did not reach the Navy in time.
The Israel Navy is defending the raid's operative plan and claims it provided adequate solutions even to the unexpected circumstances on board. However, criticism of the operation in the IDF is increasing.
Senior officers said over the weekend it is important to distinguish between the combatants' bravery and their exemplary performance during the takeover and the intelligence and operational plan. Officers have slammed the absence of the element of surprise and the decision to raid six ships simultaneously, which prevented concentrating a larger force on the Mavi Marmara.
By way of comparison, the navy on Saturday took over the Gaza-bound Irish ship Rachel Corrie in the Mediterranean Sea. Commandos boarded the ship, encountering no resistance, and towed it to Ashdod port.
In the accompanying article, the paper reported that the photos had been censored and deleted by Israeli fighters aiming to prevent embarrassment for Israel and the IDF, but the activists were able to restore them. The paper further reported that in some of the photos, activists belonging to the IHH organization are seen caring for the wounded soldiers.
But that’s exactly what Hitler did to the Jews. He ran a successful campaign and managed convincing the German people that Jews were leeches, greedy and bunch of evil people. Ironically, Israel has been doing just that against the Palestinians people, and anyone who tries stand up for them. Just pay attention to Israel’s rhetoric when talking about the Palestinians.
It’s ironic and beyond believe that Jewish would repeat what happened to them to those innocent Palestinians people who only asking Israel to end its occupation and let them to be free. Those Jewish who have been supporting this Apartheid Israeli regime must be ashamed.
desertdudeshj wrote:I see when the cats away the little dutch rat is going to play again !
G i'm getting quite tired of your look all you theists your such loosers condesending attitude homes. I tried to reason with you man and seemed liked you understood and responded well. Like I said mate your just as moronic as you claim the theists to be.
I have some very good friends who are atheists, some who were even muslim before but arn't now. And I never hear anythem chuck this crap in every sentence they utter, which you seem to be doing.
Like I said anybodys whos been on this forum for more than a day knows about your stance and point of view you dont need to constantly shove it down peoples throat.
You have to earn respect buddy not to try to hog it. Seriously buddy let it go or atleast bring it in when its relevant.
Cheers
Humbleman wrote: whereas Israel is still bent on expansion.
Humbleman wrote: the stifling of the Palestinian economy
Humbleman wrote: by over 600 checkpoints
Humbleman wrote: The war on Gaza has confirmed Israel's visceral rejection of any expression of Palestinian nationalism.
Humbleman wrote: It may be that Gaza war was launched precisely because Hamas has recently shown signs of moderation. Its key spokesmen - including Khalid Mesha'al, head of its political bureau - [b]have expressed their readiness to accept a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders.
RobbyG wrote:Lets sing it all together now!!! Flotilla Choir a la Michael Jackson - Heal the World
"We are the World!"
"Abandon Reason"
"We'll Make Them All Believe That the Hamas is Momma Theresa"
"We are Peaceful Travellers"
"We're Waving Our Own Knives"
"The Truth Will Never Find Its Way to Your TV"
"We Con the World" - Yalla Let me Hear You! -
"We Con the People"
"We Make them All Believe The IDF is Jack the Ripper"
Enjoy the song fella's. Aid rules!
Red Chief wrote:Why am I not surprised that the third culture kid and our unemployed capitalist support the kike's propaganda? Dance on bones is the favorite show of these too open minded guys.
Of cause life of Mr. Shalit cost 1000 Turkish lives. That's why Jews chose the turkish, (not Western) boat for execution. Who cares about Turks?
If Abrams were human being they would use riot police with plastic bullets and special stuff instead of soldiers.
Misery Called Life wrote:But the song itself was funny, it questions media portrayal of events. And I do find that every media outlet no matter where, does publish whatsoever serves it's own interests best.
Truth be damned!
Red Chief wrote:Misery Called Life wrote:But the song itself was funny, it questions media portrayal of events. And I do find that every media outlet no matter where, does publish whatsoever serves it's own interests best.
Truth be damned!
Pretty funny indead. Sorry for interference. Continue dancing.
Red Chief wrote:Try to invent something original, poor epigone. Google made your brain absolutely dry.
Red Chief wrote:Misery Called Life wrote:But the song itself was funny, it questions media portrayal of events. And I do find that every media outlet no matter where, does publish whatsoever serves it's own interests best.
Truth be damned!
Pretty funny indead. Sorry for interference. Continue dancing.