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A Revelation. Mar 06, 2012
I found it interesting that there was not one response to this post that I put in the "Body Scanners" thread, so I thought I would separate it in case it was over looked.

Putting one's religious views aside, take at look at the correlation with regard to the thinking of two people. I know herve read the post and totally ignored it. What he did do was put the focus on his book. Now he either doesn't get the similarities or he can't deny the similarities. I would like to see what other people think. I would hope that people can step back and see it for what it is. To justify or excuse the similarities would actually be defending the little man that I refer to below.

For me personally, I would never want an association with someone who thinks along the same lines of someone who was responsible for an historical tragedy. Fortunately herve will never reach the level to be empowered to do as he thinks.

This is what I posted:

And I'll also show how scarey you are a person.

I gave thought as to your proposals on how to fix the Muslim population that you seem to think are the cause to the problems of the world. You seem to think that to profile, segregate, persecute, etc. people of one faith would fix the root of the problem.

Once upon a time, not very long ago, there was a little man who sat in jail and put pen to paper with this thoughts. He had too much to say about his political and his hateful religious views that it required him to write two volumes. He was consumed with the thought that a certain religion was the cause of the problems of the world and elimination of that religious group would make for a better world, starting with his own country. This little man rose to power and by taking baby steps, profiling, segregating and slowly persecuting that particular religious group, the end result was one of the most horrific historical tradegies that this world has come to know. Your thinking is so closely related to his that if you had your way, you would repeat history.

Anyone with any sense and familarity with the book and this little man's thinking can see how your thinking is so very much in line with his. For anyone to deny such would be a hypocrite or in agreement with your thinking - I don't know which would be worse. It would be a smack in the face to the memory of those very people who suffered, some who are alive to this day.

The English translation of title of that book is "My Struggle". It seems that you too are struggling with the existence of Muslims and you clearly think that Muslims are the root to the evil that exists in the world we live in today and are taking pages from the book I refer to.

Guess who the vile little person is that wrote the book and left a black stain on history that will never be forgotten? Guess what religion he thought was the evil of the world?

Maybe some need a bit of help as to the book I am referring to. It's entitled "Mein Kampf".

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Re: A Revelation. Mar 06, 2012
Master Bora Bora, what exactly is it that you want me comment on? Mein Kampf? Herve?

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Re: A Revelation. Mar 06, 2012
Flying Dutchman ,

Oh, little one, is the post too above your head? Must I simplify it for you to comprehend??? Do you have a fear of admission and acknowledging the correlation. Is your sense of not offending herve greater than your sense of seeing the obvious? Or are you just ignorant to the content of Mein Kampf??
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 06, 2012
Apologies massa.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 06, 2012
Flying Dutchman ,

No apologies necessary little one. Just a honest response is required. Playing stupid isn't very becoming to someone who considers themself intelligent. Please don't do that. I've see far too much of it already on DF.

Do you agree with AH's profiling, segregation, persecution of an entire religion that he thought was responsible for the problems in the world?

Do you agree with herve's profiling, segregation, persecution of an entire religion that he thinks is responsible for the problems of the world?
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Bora Bora wrote:Do you agree with AH's profiling, segregation, persecution of an entire religion that he thought was responsible for the problems in the world?
No

Bora Bora wrote:Do you agree with herve's profiling, segregation, persecution of an entire religion that he thinks is responsible for the problems of the world?


Here I have to be more specific.

profiling: I agree 100% with profiling concerning terrorism, counterfeiting and drug trafficking or any kind of serious crime. If that's what Herve is saying than I agree 100% with him. In these cases I fully support possible profiling based on age, nationality, race, religion, or whatever other variable, and even encourage it.
segregation: I disagree 100% with any kind of involuntary segregation based on religion.
persecution: I disagree 100% with the persecution of people based on religion.

Care to explain further what history can tell us about the jews:

History will tell you why they have been run out of countries and not accepted in others.


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Flying Dutchman wrote:Here I have to be more specific.profiling: I agree 100% with profiling concerning terrorism, counterfeiting and drug trafficking or any kind of serious crime. If that's what Herve is saying than I agree 100% with him.


I appreciate you responding.

Herve is clear in that profiling be limited to ALL Muslims. He never mentioned counterfeiting and drug trafficking. How could one profile all Muslims when Muslims come in all races? Would that require Muslims to register an international registry? Or would it require some sort of armband the way Jews were identified with an armband bearing the Star of David or by having the Star of David sewn onto their clothing?

I agree that profiling is an unfortunate necessity that we are forced to live with today because of the way the world has changed because of terrorism. But mind you, Kanelli made a very valid point in that those individuals who have an intense hatred towards Muslims, who perpetuate that hatred onto others, could also by themself or encourage someone else to take up the terrorist mentality. As long as the hatred spreads and intensifies, the greater the chance that a non-Muslim may act on their hatred.

Don't you think that spreading hatred perpetuates hatred? Although someone may possess a low level of contempt for [fill in the blank] and is constantly exposed to vocal hatred from others, isn't it possible to raise the level of contempt from within to hatred? It's like a form of brainwashing. That is exactly what terrorists do to "recruits". They take weak minded, poor people, and these fanatics brainwash them into believing jihad is for the good of the religion or their country.

Over exposure desensitizes thoughts and emotions. Overthinking causes confusion.

As to the last piece in your post. Every time someone mentions "Jew" "Israel" "Israeli" there is always this knee jerk reaction by pro-Jews to go on the defense. I don't know how you can deny what history shows: that Jews were forced to travel the land, from one country to another.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 06, 2012
Bora Bora wrote: History will tell you why they have been run out of countries and not accepted in others.


Bora Bora wrote: I don't know how you can deny what history shows: that Jews were forced to travel the land, from one country to another.


You always keep us hanging. Why? What reason does history give us? Are you ashamed of your self? Self Shame is like rust on a car, it very slowly rots you from inside.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 06, 2012
Bora you are wasting your time, some people have so much hate they can't really see anything through.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
Flying Dutchman wrote:Why? What reason does history give us? Are you ashamed of your self? Self Shame is like rust on a car, it very slowly rots you from inside.


If anyone should know about self-shame it should be you FD. But you are so caught up in it you can't see yourself for who or what you are.

You so badly want to believe that I and others hate Jews. Clearly by all your twisting you work very hard at convincing yourself of that. What you want to believe comes from your own rot. I'm perfectly healthy!!!

Because I read about:
Jews, that translates into hating them.
slavery in the US and the Civil Rights Movements, I guess I hate black people as well.
countries that the US fought against, I hate Japanese and Germans.
Henry Kissenger, I hate him as well.
Martin Luther Kind, add him to my hate list.
Bill Clinton, I hate him.
and so forth and so on.

I guess anything I take an interest in must be due to my hatred.

Because I don't have an interest in reading herve's book, must mean I admire him. :drunken:

Because I don't agree with Israel's government, I hate all Israelis. Because I don't agree with Palestine's governing I hate all Palestinians.

The above is based on your twisted logic FD.

I guess you are lacking in your knowledge of the persecution of Jews. You just need to read the first half of the link provided below as the rest of it concentrates on Germany.

http://www.ic.arizona.edu/ic/mcbride/ws ... s-jewc.htm

They have been exiled from almost every country that they have ever inhabited, beginning with Israel, and leading all the was up to Germany, France, Spain, England, and Russia.


It wasn't just Arab countries, but western countries. The most recent exodus, in the last century, was from Russia.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
What is the reason Bora, that history teaches us?
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
Flying Dutchman wrote:What is the reason Bora, that history teaches us?


Reading/comprehension problem with the link FD?
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
Probably, what is the reason?
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
Thanks for the link Bora - it does make your point for you quite well.

FD, if you need any help with the contents - I'll be happy to clarify for you if you wish. The reasons for European hatred of Jews (historically and in the 20th century) seems to be based largely on what the Bible says about Jews, as well as general xenophobia and anti-semitism by those in power (blaming the 'other'). Much like modern day Islamophobia.

Have a nice day now.

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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
You have a great day shaf! :-)



Lies and deceit, Bora. Bora, the reason why jews from Bablylon to present are persecuted is not in the article. What is the reason?
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
I will have a great day.

I didn't realise that the Jews were persecuted in Babylon - the article says they were treated well there. Indeed, wasn't it in Babylon that much of the modern day Judaism was codified?

The reason for European anti-Semitism is indeed in the article - look, because you wished me a good day, I'll help you out..

The Jews were such a threat because they did not believe in Jesus Christ a s the Son of God and were therefore non-Christian believers. A second wave of crusades emerged in 1146 and 1189. Riots against Jews even began to emerge through England. The crusades thus lead to Jews becoming the hated religious sect and they were cast out of almost every country throughout Europe.


No lies, no deceipt - just straigfhtforward historical facts in a language even a Dutchman can grasp.

You may stop your twisting now and address the facts.

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Flying Dutchman wrote:Lies and deceit, Bora. Bora, the reason why jews from Bablylon to present are persecuted is not in the article. What is the reason?


So the link I provided is full of "lies and deceit"?

Sorry FD, I can't draw you a picture story book for you using crayons to help you understand. If you don't know the answer, I'll leave it up to you to do your own research. There's enough information on the internet to help you.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
FD - why do you bother posting on this forum if you just do a herve (formerly known as 'doing an eh') everytime a difficult question is posed to you?

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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
Baiting and deceipt from the Mauritian serial liar and forum terrorist.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 07, 2012
Flying Dutchman wrote:Baiting and deceipt from the Mauritian serial liar and forum terrorist.
LOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!! That was funny! So wrong it is actually funny.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 08, 2012
There is many a true word said in jest.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 08, 2012
Bethsmum wrote:There is many a true word said in jest.
Yea but I said it is 'so wrong' so there is no misunderstanding.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 08, 2012
Its so wrong its right.

--- Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:58 am ---

Theres a fine line between right and wrong.

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Theres a fine line between love and hate.
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Bethsmum wrote:Its so wrong its right.
No
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 08, 2012
You are a man of few words Nucleus.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 08, 2012
Flying Dutchman wrote:Baiting and deceipt from the Mauritian serial liar and forum terrorist.


You are pathetic FD.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 08, 2012
You are a man of few words Kanelli.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 08, 2012
FD only has name calling left it seems. No arguments or discussion, just vitriol. Sad man.

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Re: A Revelation. Mar 08, 2012
shafique wrote:Sad man.


Shafique has only name calling left it seems. Sad man.
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Re: A Revelation. Mar 08, 2012
I'm also telling jokes. You must not be laughing in your frustration. ;)

You should ask FD to cheer up and stop whining - not becoming a grown man that. ;)

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