Quotes From Hamas - Glorification Of Hatred, Violence

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Quotes from Hamas - glorification of hatred, violence Aug 17, 2010
We will kill Jews everywhere. There will be no security for any Jews, those who came from America, Russia or anywhere.


The Israelis will not know security. We will fight them until the liberation of Palestine, the whole of Palestine.


All the land of Palestine is a part of the Islamic faith and the Caliph Omar bin al-Khattab declared it for all Muslims. Therefore, no individual or group has the right to sell it or give it up.


the Nazis received tremendous financial aid from the Zionist banks and monopolies, and this contributed to their rise to power", and accused the Jewish-owned Berlin-based investment bank Mendelssohn & Co. of funding the Nazis, calling it a "Zionist bank


- Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi, co-founder of Hamas


[S]uffering by fire is the Jews' destiny in this world and the next...Therefore we are sure that the Holocaust is still to come upon the Jews.


I do not exaggerate when I say this issue [teaching the Holocaust] is a war crime, because of how it serves the Zionist colonizers and deals with their hypocrisy and lies.


- Sheik Yunus al-Astal, a Hamas legislator and imam

Jews are a people who cannot be trusted. They have been traitors to all agreements. Go back to history. Their fate is their vanishing.


- Yousif al-Zahar, imam

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Re: Quotes from Hamas - glorification of hatred, violence Aug 17, 2010
More loon snippets. This is is getting funny now - how many threads will the loons start on the subject 'loons refuse to accept they've been punked'? ;)

Unfortunately for the loons, Hamas has been quite clear about it's stance, here's a reply to a similar post in another thread - note the words 'complete, comprehensive and clear' - compare and contrast! ..
shafique wrote:However, the problem for the Loons is that Hamas has indeed given a complete, comprehensive and clear statements on their stance vis-a-vis the west in general, and about Jews/Judaism as well.

The problem for fanbois at the moment is that they are losing the PR battle - and they don't like it. There's much lashing out etc and barrels are being scraped (I mean, the original post had a video from 2009 in it, now eh digs out an earlier one in an attempt to distract from the threads he's been exposed - eg talking donkeys, the Crusades being both 'not holy wars' and 'generic holy wars' :? etc)

But here's why Memri feels the need to produce its selective quotes and use the 'guilt by association and innuendo and selective editing' techniques - Hamas makes the point that the issue is not religious, but a struggle against occupation:

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Hamas condemns the Holocaust

We are not engaged in a religious conflict with Jews; this is a political struggle to free ourselves from occupation and oppression

Bassem Naeem
guardian.co.uk, Monday 12 May 2008 14.30 BST


As the Palestinian people prepare to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the Nakba ("catastrophe") - the dispossession and expulsion of most of our people from our land - those remaining in Palestine face escalating aggression, killings, imprisonment, ethnic cleansing and siege. But instead of support and solidarity from the western media, we face frequent attempts to defend the indefensible or turn fire on the Palestinians themselves.

One recent approach, which seems to be part of the wider attempt to isolate the elected Palestinian leadership, is to portray Hamas and the population of the Gaza strip as motivated by anti-Jewish sentiment, rather than a hostility to Zionist occupation and domination of our land. A recent front page article in the International Herald Tribune followed this line, as did an article for Cif about an item broadcast on the al-Aqsa satellite TV channnel about the Nazi Holocaust.

In fact, the al-Aqsa Channel is an independent media institution that often does not express the views of the Palestinian government headed by Ismail Haniyeh or of the Hamas movement. The channel regularly gives Palestinians of different convictions the chance to express views that are not shared by the Palestinian government or the Hamas movement. In the case of the opinion expressed on al-Aqsa TV by Amin Dabbur, it is his alone and he is solely responsible for it.

It is rather surprising to us that so little attention, if any, is given by the western media to what is regularly broadcast or written in the Israeli media by politicians and writers demanding the total uprooting or "transfer" of the Palestinian people from their land.

The Israeli media and pro-Israel western press are full of views that deny or seek to excuse well-established facts of history including the Nakba of 1948 and the massacres perpetrated then by the Haganah, the Irgun and LEHI with the objective of forcing a mass dispossession of the Palestinians.

But it should be made clear that neither Hamas nor the Palestinian government in Gaza denies the Nazi Holocaust. The Holocaust was not only a crime against humanity but one of the most abhorrent crimes in modern history. We condemn it as we condemn every abuse of humanity and all forms of discrimination on the basis of religion, race, gender or nationality.

And at the same time as we unreservedly condemn the crimes perpetrated by the Nazis against the Jews of Europe, we categorically reject the exploitation of the Holocaust by the Zionists to justify their crimes and harness international acceptance of the campaign of ethnic cleansing and subjection they have been waging against us - to the point where in February the Israeli deputy defence minister Matan Vilnai threatened the people of Gaza with a "holocaust".

Within 24 hours, 61 Palestinians - more than half of them civilians and a quarter children - were killed in a series of air raids. Meanwhile, a horrible crime against humanity continues to be perpetrated against the people of Gaza: the two-year-old siege imposed after Hamas won the legislative elections in January 2006, which is causing great suffering. Due to severe shortages of medicines and food, scores of Palestinians have lost their lives.

It cannot be right that Europeans in general and the British in particular maintain a virtual silence toward what the Zionists are doing to the Palestinians, let alone supporting or justifying their oppressive policies, under the pretext of showing sympathy for the victims of the Holocaust.

The Palestinian people aspire to freedom, independence and peaceful coexistence with all their neighbours. There are, today, more than six million Palestinian refugees. No less than 700,000 Palestinians have been detained at least once by the Israeli occupation authorities since 1967. Hundreds of thousands have so far been killed or wounded. Little concern seems to be caused by all of this or by the erection of an apartheid wall that swallows more than 20% of the West Bank land or the heavily armed colonies that devour Palestinian land in a blatant violation of international law.

The plight of our people is not the product of a religious conflict between us and the Jews in Palestine or anywhere else: the aims and positions of today's Hamas have been repeatedly spelled out by its leadership, for example in Hamas's 2006 programme for government. The conflict is of a purely political nature: it is between a people who have come under occupation and an oppressive occupying power.

Our right to resistance against occupation is recognised by all conventions and religious traditions. The Jews are for us the people of a sacred book who suffered persecution in European lands. Whenever they sought refuge, Muslim and Arab lands provided them with safe havens. It was in our midst that they enjoyed peace and prosperity; many of them held leading positions in Muslim countries.

After almost a century of Zionist colonial and racist oppression, some Palestinians find it hard to imagine that some of their oppressors are the sons and daughters of those who were themselves oppressed and massacred.

Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust but find themselves punished for someone else's crime. But we are well aware and warmly welcome the outspoken support for Palestinian rights by Israeli and Jewish human rights activists in Palestine and around the world.

We hope that journalists in the west will begin to adopt a more objective approach when covering events in Palestine. The Palestinian people are being killed by Israel's machine of destruction on a daily basis. Nevertheless, we still see a clear bias in favour of Israel in the western media.

The Europeans bear a direct responsibility for what is befalling the Palestinians today. Britain was the mandate authority that handed over Palestine to Israeli occupation. Nazi Germany perpetrated the most heinous crimes against Jews, forcing the survivors to migrate to Palestine in pursuit of safety. We, therefore, expect the Europeans to atone for their historic crimes by restoring some balance to the inhuman and one-sided international response to the tragedy of our people.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... eholocaust
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Re: Quotes from Hamas - glorification of hatred, violence Aug 17, 2010
It is a sad sight to see loons resort to obfuscation rather than do the decent thing and condemn the calls for killings in the name of Islam. The hate must out-weigh the shame. Sad.
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So, the loon reality distortion field calls a categoric statement which states that Hamas doesn't deny the Holocaust and is against all forms of discrimination is 'obfuscation'.

What is unclear about the clear, categoric statement:
But it should be made clear that neither Hamas nor the Palestinian government in Gaza denies the Nazi Holocaust. The Holocaust was not only a crime against humanity but one of the most abhorrent crimes in modern history. We condemn it as we condemn every abuse of humanity and all forms of discrimination on the basis of religion, race, gender or nationality.


Surely, even in loonville it can't be spun into 'Hamas denies the Holocaust' or 'Hamas is anti-semitic'
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Re: Quotes from Hamas - glorification of hatred, violence Aug 17, 2010
Why are you trying to brush the statements from high ranking Hamas officials under the rug ?

Ignoring what was said doesn't make what they said go away.

Neither does the fact that the Holocaust is prohibited from being taught at UN run schools in the Gaza strip because, according to Hamas officials, the Holocaust was a myth.
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Re: Quotes From Hamas - Glorification Of Hatred, Violence Aug 17, 2010
Hey, it's not my problem that your snippets from Memri etc have been trumped by the categoric statement by Hamas - that's your problem.

As I said, even in loonville the categoric, complete and clear statement from Hamas trumps memri specials and snippets from who-knows-when (note that I gave the complete quote and link in my quote, yours ... well, loons hate to give sources of their selective quotes/translations).

So, given that Hamas is pretty clear on it's stance - doesn't that leave the loon fantasies looking rather sad and lame?

But it should be made clear that neither Hamas nor the Palestinian government in Gaza denies the Nazi Holocaust. The Holocaust was not only a crime against humanity but one of the most abhorrent crimes in modern history. We condemn it as we condemn every abuse of humanity and all forms of discrimination on the basis of religion, race, gender or nationality.


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