He Predicated It In 2008 With Stunning Accuracy!!

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He predicated it in 2008 with stunning accuracy!! Feb 13, 2011
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I had the pleasure of reading parts of this book when it first came out!!


A must read if you're interested in Egypt


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Re: He Predicated It In 2008 With Stunning Accuracy!! Feb 13, 2011
Thanks TJ - looks like an interesting read (as does the book on Saudi Arabia).

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Re: He predicated it in 2008 with stunning accuracy!! Feb 13, 2011
Those who correctly predict social events before they occur definitely should not be dismissed.

I'm reminded of a poster over at a hater site by the screen name of JihadBob who correctly predicted that it would only be a matter of time before Egypt's endangered Christian community would be hit by a suicide bombing at a religious service - two months later, a bomber detonated his explosives outside a Coptic church moments after a mass ended, taking out two dozen.

For some reason, despite their accurate predictions, people like JihadBob or myself - I also said that Scandinavia would be hit by Islamic terrorism - are often sidelined by the people who manage to get everything wrong, every time.
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Re: He predicated it in 2008 with stunning accuracy!! Feb 14, 2011
TJ - good recommendation. I managed to get copies of both Bradley's books - this one and the Saudi one.

Made a start to the Egypt book - a fascinating insight into the background - almost finished the first chapter right now. I also skim read the final chapter... 'Egypt after Mubarak' -interesting.


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Re: He predicated it in 2008 with stunning accuracy!! Feb 15, 2011
shafique wrote:TJ - good recommendation. I managed to get copies of both Bradley's books - this one and the Saudi one.

Made a start to the Egypt book - a fascinating insight into the background - almost finished the first chapter right now. I also skim read the final chapter... 'Egypt after Mubarak' -interesting.


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You're welcome!

I have not seen his book on KSA. It sounds gossipy and fun to read. Will try to get a copy for myself soon!!


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Re: He Predicated It In 2008 With Stunning Accuracy!! Feb 16, 2011
Finished the book.

Some very interesting insights - information about Bedouin and the s.ex scene in Luxor were news to me, and indeed his theories as to why western women are seen as 'easy meat' are well argued. It also puts into perspective the story about the CBS reporter being molested by a crowd and saved by Egyptian women and police (and the Pavlovian response of the resident loons to focus on the criminals and extrapolate was hardly a surprise - ignore the Egyptians who saved the lady, and hype up and generalise the crime! :roll: )

The corruption and torture chapters explicitly highlighted what the Mubarak regime had brought the country to. Most depressing. The country certainly can't be expected to turn itself around in the short term - but let's hope that things do improve with the end of the Mubarak rule.


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Yeah, it's crazy why the headlines don't read 'CBS reporter saved by Egyptians'.

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shafique wrote:Finished the book.

Some very interesting insights - information about Bedouin and the s.ex scene in Luxor were news to me, and indeed his theories as to why western women are seen as 'easy meat' are well argued. It also puts into perspective the story about the CBS reporter being molested by a crowd and saved by Egyptian women and police (and the Pavlovian response of the resident loons to focus on the criminals and extrapolate was hardly a surprise - ignore the Egyptians who saved the lady, and hype up and generalise the crime! :roll: )

The corruption and torture chapters explicitly highlighted what the Mubarak regime had brought the country to. Most depressing. The country certainly can't be expected to turn itself around in the short term - but let's hope that things do improve with the end of the Mubarak rule.


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Legal talk correction:

Technically speaking, she was not molested. The term “molestation” applies only when the sexual activity is perpetrated against children under 18 yrs old.


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Re: He Predicated It In 2008 With Stunning Accuracy!! Feb 17, 2011
^I wasn't writing legalese, but English ;). I looked up the definition, and in English (and even American English) it can apply to the s.exual harrassment of grown women.

But point about the legalese is taken on board and is noted.

I thank you. :D

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PS - 'Molest Woman' gives loads of examples of the usage in this way - including this one relating to Dubai from just over a week ago :shock:

Dubai realty agent gets jail term for molesting woman

By Bassam Za'Za', Senior ReporterPublished: 19:09 February 7, 2011

Dubai: A realty agent faces three months in jail for placing his hand inside the skirt of a girl while showing her a flat for rent at Dubai International City.
The Dubai Court of First Instance convicted the 29-year-old Pakistani defendant of molesting the Mexican girl and groping her.
Prosecutors had accused 29-year-old M.A. of molesting the 24-year-old girl by touching her legs after putting his hand in her skirt.
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http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime ... n-1.758513
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Re: He predicated it in 2008 with stunning accuracy!! Feb 17, 2011
I forgot to mention - the prediction of the revolution isn't really explicitly made in the book- Bradley seems to be assuming Gamal will take over as the most likely scenario.

He does though end the book with a reference to an article on the Muslim Brotherhood website - which cites a BBC article which laid the conditions for a revolution....

What is equally apparent is that the Muslim Brotherhood learns from the experiences of others. In the fall of 2007, their official Web page made positive reference to a BBC article that laid out the conditions most likely
to lead to popular unrest and overthrow of a government, using as an example the unfortunate experience of Myanmar (Burma) under the military regime. Among the key factors identified as likely to lead to regime
change: widespread public protests, bringing in many different social and economic groups; an opposition leadership with clear ideas around which people can rally; the ability to use the media in some form to get a message across; a mechanism for undermining the existing regime, whether by internal coup in the case of a military junta, the emergence of reformers, or the simple exhaustion of an existing government leading to its collapse.

The excited Muslim Brotherhood activist who brought attention to the article asked his fellow Islamists on their Web site: “In Egypt, can it be implemented?” The question was posited, one got the impression, more than just rhetorically.


Uncanny, in hindsight, indeed.

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Re: He predicated it in 2008 with stunning accuracy!! Feb 17, 2011
I also recommend a book by David Fromkin- titled "A peace to end all peace".. for those who wish to have deeper understanding as to how, many things have started to have snowball effects in ME politics..
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Re: He predicated it in 2008 with stunning accuracy!! Feb 17, 2011
Thanks for the recommendation Berrin. I managed to get hold of a copy - and it looks impressive. It certainly will be a much longer read than the Bradley books - I'm now reading his Saudi book, which starts with the history of the Sauds in Saudi Arabia.

I'll add the Fromkin book onto the list of to read in future - but it also looks like a great reference book too.

Robert Fisks - 'The Great War for Civilisation' is a recommended read too from myself.

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I'll add the Fromkin book onto the list of to read in future - but it also looks like a great reference book too.

Correct..I heard many times before that many political writers and journalist taking it as reference book to read back when there is a mind boggling, inflamatory event takes place in ME..
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shafique wrote:^I wasn't writing legalese, but English ;). I looked up the definition, and in English (and even American English) it can apply to the s.exual harrassment of grown women.

But point about the legalese is taken on board and is noted.

I thank you. :D

Cheers,
Shafique



Sounds like you were offended, Shaf. Sorry if you took offence!

It was just a piece of legal trivia I learned when I was taking a Criminal Law course. I remember once I screwed up an answer to an impromptu quiz in that course, ...to a question which had to with the legal definition of “molestation” as applied to sexual abuse cases! I was told later by the Professor that the term "moslestation" only applied to underage children in such cases. Never forgot that!!! :D

Take it easy, Sir. It was just done with a light-hearted intention!!


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Re: He Predicated It In 2008 With Stunning Accuracy!! Feb 17, 2011
Tom Jones wrote:It was just a piece of legal trivia I learned when I was taking a Criminal Law course.


American Criminal Law I assume.
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Re: He Predicated It In 2008 With Stunning Accuracy!! Feb 18, 2011
Tom Jones wrote:
Sounds like you were offended, Shaf. Sorry if you took offence!


I apologise if I gave that impression - I wasn't offended - if anything I should be the last one to be offended by pedantry. ;) I used the smileys genuinely. :)

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I'll add the Fromkin book onto the list of to read in future - but it also looks like a great reference book too.

Correct..I heard many times before that many political writers and journalist taking it as reference book to read back when there is a mind boggling, inflamatory event takes place in ME..


Berrin - thanks for the reference. David Fromkin's book 'A peace to end all peace' is indeed a great read and detailed resource. I learnt quite a few things about the events in the book - notably info about Winston Churchill and T.E. Lawrence, as well as the Turkey, Palestine, Egypt etc issues described.

Thoroughly recommend - long, but still a relatively quick read I found.

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