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Spencer and Geller still Yapping about their “Historic” Rally

Robert Spencer and his goonish friend Pamela Geller, leaders of the hate group SIOA and FDI are claiming that the size of their rally on September 11th, which they billed as the biggest thing ever was huge.

The fact is that it was really not that big, let alone historic. It was definitely not in the 40,000 or more range as Geller and Spencer claim. In fact according to the AP it wasn’t larger than a thousand.

Charles Johnson sums it up well:

Anti-Mosque Rally Attendance: Less Than 1,000

According to the Associated Press, attendance at Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer’s international hate rally was less than 1,000: The Associated Press: Dueling demonstrations begin after 9/11 memorial.

After the ceremony, around 1,000 activists rallied about five blocks from the site of the 2001 attacks to support the proposed Islamic community center. A smaller group of opponents rallied nearby, chanting, “USA, USA.”

UPDATE at 9/11/10 6:27:36 pm:

Hilarious! Geller is claiming 40,000. Who could ever have predicted that?

UPDATE at 9/11/10 6:41:30 pm:

Pamela Geller’s closing words to the seething throng:

As the crowds dissipated, Geller warned them against talking to members of the media:

“Do not give them any ammunition. You know who you are. You know that you’re righteous. Do not give them an opportunity to deride this fine and honorable effort. Remember what I’m saying. They’re looking to catch you. Don’t give it to them.”

“Listen to Mommy,” she said.

Of course Spencer and company claim that it is a big old conspiracy against those who want to expose Islam, and that the numbers are under reported. Fact is that it isn’t under reported, it is just the their hate rally was “historically” underwhelming.

After the ceremony, around 1,000 activists rallied about five blocks from the site of the 2001 attacks to support the proposed Islamic community center. A smaller group of opponents rallied nearby, chanting, “USA, USA.”

Media spreads big lie, claims that pro-mosque protest was larger than 9/11 Rally of Remembrance

I take it you’ve never actually seen what 1,000 people looks like, as there doesn’t seem to be much more than 500 people in that photo.

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Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not, but they only used half the street and closed off the rest with a divider. And it doesn’t go that far down. Not more than 1000 loons put in cage going bananas.

JihadBob says:
September 18, 2010 at 7:59 am
The article from the AP that Danios somehow managed to quote but not read too carefully actually says the crowd *after* the rally numbered less than one thousand.

In fact, despite pictures of a heavily attended anti-Islamic supremacy rally, the snaps from the loon/leftist rally appear rather barren in contrast.

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menj says:
September 18, 2010 at 8:40 am
It seems that it is you who have a problem in comprehension. The report clearly states that it is the pro-mosque rally that is 1K, but those who opposed the mosque appeared in far less numbers than the pro-mosque supporters.

I take it you’ve never actually seen what 1,000 people looks like, as there doesn’t seem to be much more than 500 people in that photo.

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not, but they only used half the street and closed off the rest with a divider. And it doesn’t go that far down. Not more than 1000 loons put in cage going bananas.

the AP report talks about the rallies after the 9/11 ceremony - so another epic failure of comprehension, and states that the rally in favour of Park 51 was around 1000, and the loon rally had fewer people:

This year’s anniversary of the 9/11 islamic terrorist attacks brought thousands of opponents and supporters of the controversial “ground zero mosque” to lower Manhattan in New York City. The American people yet again have been served a false narrative by the dominant liberal establishment mass media. Just as the MSM joined the administration in smearing the Tea Party movement as racist, and a hotbed for right-wing terrorism they now have extended that propaganda theme to those who oppose the mosque at ground zero.

With headlines like Angry Protests Mar Solemn Day, Both Sides Desecrate Vigil, and Rallies Rage in Downtown Duel New York papers painted a scene of divisive struggle between roughly equivalent numbers of protesters at the anti-mosque and pro-mosque rallies. Nothing could be further from the truth. Those at the Stop the Mosque Rally were well apart from the radicals and communists who marched and chanted political slogans on the streets of lower Manhattan.

The photo above shows the 9/11 Remembrance/Stop the Ground Zero Mosque Rally hosted by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. According to the New York Times, what is seen here is a crowd of 2,000 persons. The New York Daily News, “reported” that the crowd (above) contained “hundreds,” despite the fact that it stretched 40 abreast for three city blocks. Local NYC News Channel 10 reported live that there were 30,000 people at this rally. Channel 10 should be applauded for doing their job, and the rest of the media stands exposed as corrupt and untrustworthy.

The Stop the Mosque rally hosts, Geller and Spencer, instructed participants not to bring signs, only flags, in order to emphasize the sanctity and solemnity of the occasion. They also emphasized in their promotional blog posts that it was to be a “remembrance rally”. That was very much the tone of the rally I witnessed and photographed just next to 51 Park Place, the site of the proposed Cordoba House mosque/community center.

The second rally in question was near City Hall. It was described by the New York Times as being made up of “supporters of the proposed Islamic center” and “organized by a number of left-wing anti-war and pro-Palestinian groups, including the International Action Center. (IAC)” By describing the organizers as “left-wing anti-war” the Times obscures the true nature of the organized opposition to the mosque project. The IAC is an umbrella group for Marxist, Stalanist and Castroist groups like the World Workers Party (WWP) which supplied hundreds of professionally printed signs. The communist umbrella organization World Can’t Wait was also a main sponsor of the anti-mosque rally.

This technique of labeling militant Marxist revolutionary operations as “anti-war, pacifist, or left-wing” has been employed for decades by the dominant liberal media to mislead the public about who exactly is organizing domestic opposition to U.S. foreign policy. The “pro-mosque” rally was a highly politicized combination of communists, islamists, and hispanic open border radicals.

I attended the leftist rally up until just before the Stop the Mosque Rally started at 3 p.m. I estimated 1,500 leftist protesters inside the staging area at 2:45, with many more arriving at the time of my departure. The AP reported a total of 1,000 leftists.

Signs like the ones above were available by the hundreds. Note the signs about freeing Lynn Stewart the “People’s Lawyer.” All the major themes of the radical anti-American left were on display, including: Bush/Cheney War Criminals, Jobs not Hate-Say No to Tea Party Bigots, Worker Defense Guards Against Racist Anti-Immigrant Attacks. There were also signs denouncing President Obama for continuing with many of the Bush/Cheney anti-terrorism policies . Note also that the communist produced sign are perfectly in sync with the liberal media/administration theme branding opponents of the Cordoba initiative mosque as racist bigots.

I saw one group of around 100 protesters chanting “Racists Go Home … Leave Muslims Alone” towards an open top double decker tour bus stopped at a traffic light. It was packed with appalled tourists who looked on in amazement as protesters vented their rage at them.

Three blocks away on the relatively secluded side street where the Stop Islamization of America Remembrance rally was assembled there was a completely different tone. These were people who share an informed awareness of the challenge America and the west faces from both islamist terrorists and their stealth jihad co-religionists like imam Rauf.

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