Londoners Support Calls To Ban Minarets In Capital

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Re: Londoners support calls to ban minarets in capital Dec 09, 2009
shafique wrote:I've pointed out a few times that the Holy Prophet, pbuh, didn't share the Saudi views


I agree, in your imagination, you believe this to be true. Meanwhile, back in reality.....

Narrated Said bin Jubair: Ibn 'Abbas said, "Thursday! What (great thing) took place on Thursday!" Then he started weeping till his tears wetted the gravels of the ground . Then he said, "On Thursday the illness of Allah's Apostle was aggravated and he said, "Fetch me writing materials so that I may have something written to you after which you will never go astray." The people (present there) differed in this matter and people should not differ before a prophet. They said, "Allah's Apostle is seriously sick.' The Prophet said, "Let me alone, as the state in which I am now, is better than what you are calling me for." The Prophet on his death-bed, gave three orders saying, "Expel the pagans from the Arabian Peninsula, respect and give gifts to the foreign delegates as you have seen me dealing with them." I forgot the third (order)" (Ya'qub bin Muhammad said, "I asked Al-Mughira bin 'Abdur-Rahman about the Arabian Peninsula and he said, 'It comprises Mecca, Medina, Al-Yama-ma and Yemen." Ya'qub added, "And Al-Arj, the beginning of Tihama.") - Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 288


Yahya related to me from Malik from Ismail ibn Abi Hakim that he heard Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz say, "One of the last things that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said was, 'May Allah fight the jews and the christians. They took the graves of their Prophets as places of prostration . Two deens shall not co-exist in the land of the Arabs.' " - Malik's Muwatta, Book 45, Number 45.5.17


Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Two deens shall not co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula."


Malik said that Ibn Shihab said, ''Umar ibn al-Khattab searched for information about that until he was absolutely convinced that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, had said, 'Two deens shall not co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula,' and he therefore expelled the jews from Khaybar." - Malik's Muwatta, Book 45, Number 45.5.18


Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: people of two different religions would not inherit from one another. - Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 18, Number 2905


It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim. - Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4366


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Koran 9:17-18 It is not for the idolaters to inhabit God's places of worship, witnessing against themselves unbelief; those -- their works have failed them, and in the Fire they shall dwell forever.

Only he shall inhabit God's places of worship who believes in God and the Last Day, and performs the prayer, and pays the alms, and fears none but God alone; it may be that those will be among the guided.



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Ah, nice to see some repetition of eh-oh's 'basic truths'.

I like the nice touch of irony where he says this is 'reality'.

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I like the nice touch of revisionist history where you claim that Muhammad didn't share the same views as the Saudis.

That was very nice. Perhaps roadtester believed you until the relevant Koranic verses and hadith were posted?
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That was very nice. Perhaps roadtester believed you until the relevant Koranic verses and hadith were posted?


Perhaps he did. Or perhaps he (like you) won't read your posts either. :wink:

But let's be fair, did you read through all the bits you pasted this time?

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It's sad what you're reduced to when the Koran and hadiths do not support your spin portrayal of Muhammad's character.

Personally, I feel more remorse for the innocent Christian tribes Muhammad and Abu Bakr mercilessly attacked between 631-633 ce. I mean, their only crime was not submitting to a violent, expansionist, Islamic theocracy.

What do you think?

I would like to know how an apologist for Jihad terror would weigh in on the plight of the earliest victims of Jihad terrorism.
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:lol:

Shall we wait and see what roadster's answers are?

You didn't confirm that this time you had actually read what +you+ posted?

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