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shafique wrote:Remind me again who were arrested and why? Was it the anti-fascist British protestors or the drunken louts who assaulted the police?

Facts, not fantasies young one. ;)

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Facts Shafique facts. In the BBC article who exactly were the drunken louts? Where does it specifically state that those drunken were not Asian?

DDS is absolutely right about inaccurate reporting. BBC has one again chosen to be ambivalent in their reporting ostensibly to maintain communal harmony and peace. The BBC could very easily have painted a far more telling picture of those Asian youth who were ready and waiting to start a riot. And these are the people you support. Speaks volumes really.

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Or they could have simply done what most news agencies claim to be, fair and balanced.
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shafique wrote:Sir, this thread's title is :
"Fascist, Drunken Thugs Arrested"
The article in my post above is entitled 'East End 2, Fascists 0'

I thank you. ;)

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al shafique ...You should add muslim drug addicts and repeat offenders.
Milad Ahmed (a moslem) one of the scum you support was arrested and sentenced to prison after the police found drug in his underwear.
We will see more of those
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http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Fa ... 092011.htm

According to Scotland Yard EDL is NOT an extreme right wing, hence not fascist
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/0 ... ims-police

In conclusion your thread is maliciously milsleading , unless you know better than the Yard
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So do the EDL members arrested want a merger between the state and corporations (ie., the definition of fascism) ???

Err, or apparently some are using adjectives so the audience knows to dislike the people the adjectives describe without any actual analysis of the views held by EDL protesters who came out to march.

But hey, when homophobes spontaneously form to cause grievous injury to people with views they don't like are labeled 'anti-fascists' we can be sure to dismiss any claim who the fascists are.

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shafique wrote:RC - as DDS pointed out, just look up EDL and who attend their ralllies and you'll see what they are about.

But specifically on the fascist bit:

But having spent time with them, there is evidence that this movement has a more disturbing side. There is talk of the need for a 'street army', and there are links with football hooligans and evidence that violent neo-Nazi groups including Combat 18, Blood and Honour and the British Freedom Fighters have been attending demos.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive ... eague.html

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If someone attends demos, organized by EDL, doesn't mean that EDL thinks and acts the same way. So it was pretty weak attempt of yours (facts and fantasies) but what you should been even less happy, that the article was not about arrest of EDL supporters but about the brutal attack of Muslim youth on the couch. It's in the head-line. This point you prefered to omit entirely. MCL is absolutely right about totally closed Ethnic areas in London for visiting generational Englishmen.

After that your accusation of FD in doing the same are worth absolutely nothing. You are nothing better bigot than him.

P.S. I cannot read any post of DDS.


By shafique's own (brilliant) logic, everyone who attended the counter-protest were homophobes because a number of the Muslims there threatened some of their own co-demonstrators for being openly gay.
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Misery Called Life wrote: The BBC could very easily have painted a far more telling picture of those Asian youth who were ready and waiting to start a riot. And these are the people you support. Speaks volumes really.


MCL, stop casting pearls before the shameless bigot, who calls anti-fa that Asian mob, who gathered in hundreds to commit lynch law under 44 citizens of the UK because the latter go through the ethnic area (which those Asians treat as their own state) by couch. Only 200 vans of riot police prevented tragedy.

Once more EDL demos and contra-demos happend earlier that day and was outside the topic of the article and the place, where described incident took place.
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:D Just because you don't want to believe the facts.... :D

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Oh God... We are going on the next loop, aren't we? On the previous 4 or 5 pages we found which facts, that described in the article, you want to emphasize and which ones you want to omit. Have a respect to the own work.

I spoke about your weird interpretation only.
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Well, this thread was always about 44 fascist, drunken thugs being arrested - and contrasting with the spin eh tried to put on it (we both quoted the same article, and his one was first).

I understand why eh is supporting the drunken louts who got themselves arrested after their coach broke down - it is poetic justice that the same police they were fighting earlier on in the day had to organise their transport out and then arrested them.

The fact that diverse groups outnumbered the fascists was also a delicious fact - and to be honest, may not have come to these forums if it wasn't for eh's initial thread. Bravo, young one, bravo!

Painstaking grass-roots work by Unite Against Fascism and local trade union and community activists meant the EDL was met not by campaigners parachuted in from elsewhere but by an alliance which put the lie to the EDL's scaremongering over immigration and Islam.


Herve - thanks for your post. You failed on two points.

1. This thread is about the fascists who got arrested in London after their failed protest. It is not about a drug arrest after another rally in Cambridge. Look on a map, London is not Cambridge. I say bravo to the police who arrested the fascists in London and the one drug dealer in Cambridge.

2. Your Guardian article does say that Tudway sent an e-mail before the march tried to say that the fascists weren't extremist - it also says that it is not clear whether the Police Force agrees with this view, and quotes a differing view (note this was written before the arrests) - the latter is more credible, given what happened.:

Tudway's unit was charged with investigating any links between the right wing Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik and the English Defence League.

Defending Tudway's views, the Met police said: "The EDL are not a proscribed group. Police are committed to taking robust action against anyone who causes harm by crossing into criminality in support of any issue."

It did not answer whether the force shared his views that the EDL were not extremist.

Dan Hodges, from anti-fascism charity Searchlight, said the charity had been privately telling police more resources needed to be devoted to countering the threat of far right violence: "It's staggering given the EDL's record of violence, intimidation and the outspoken support of many of its members for far right wing politicians and politics."

He said police should classify the EDL as extremist and linked to violence and spend more time and effort trying to thwart their plans: "It's difficult to see what further evidence one would want to see them as extremist.

"Every EDL demo ends in disorder and physical violence."


Dan Hodges seems to have been proven right - and he's the anti-fascist. Thanks for the info herve, very useful.


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How very amusing! A whole 5 pages of comments and not one from an English person :D

It's people like Shafique spouting his Islam blah blah who drive employed, tax paying white people like me towards the EDL. It was a post from some random nutter on this forum who prompted me to their website in the first place.

Carry on Shafique, you are raising the profile of the EDL each day. Well done :lol:
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Ah, I was wondering when the resident BNP supporter would turn up. I was even wondering whether you had been banged up with the losers over the weekend. ;)

Isn't it great when the English people of the East End can rally together and defeat the drunk rabble who assaulted police, and then the coach broke down in East London. How I laughed at the poetic justice.

The EDL will always attract bigots and racists - and it is nothing new. In the 30's Mosley attracted fascists to his cause- and the result was the Battle of Cable street!

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shafique wrote:Ah, I was wondering when the resident BNP supporter would turn up. I was even wondering whether you had been banged up with the losers over the weekend. ;)

Isn't it great when the English people of the East End can rally together and defeat the drunk rabble who assaulted police, and then the coach broke down in East London. How I laughed at the poetic justice.

The EDL will always attract bigots and racists - and it is nothing new. In the 30's Mosley attracted fascists to his cause- and the result was the Battle of Cable street!

Cheers,
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Not only a BNP voter but a recent EDL convert! You and your mates can take the credit for that :wink:
Who were the English people who you refered to? Not those bloody immigrants who are attempting to make parts of London, no go areas? You won't win sunshine! The great white British public are getting well sick of you lot. Most of us want you lot sent right back to where you came from. You're not even grateful to the country who gave you a leg up. Why look at you sunshine, you've naffed off back to where you came from waving your British passport. :D
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RC, didn't you know the anti-fascists are the ones who engage in lynch mobs and homophobic bigotry whereas the fascists (EDL) are the ones opposing lynch mobs and homophobic bigotry?

And I see shafique is once again ignoring that the Asian youth in his article attacked police officers (but no Asian youth were apparently arrested, wonder why?).

Unpleasant facts need to be omitted, dontchya know?
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EDL drunken louts got arrested, and our resident EDL supporters are not happy with this fact.

But we have young eh to thank for giving us all non-Fascists a laugh at the poetic justice meted out to the EDL drunkards who assaulted the police and got arrested.

Herve's misguided intervention and BM's rant just add to the merriment! ;)

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But we have young eh to thank for giving us all non-Fascists a laugh at the poetic justice meted out to the EDL drunkards who assaulted the police and got arrested.


Are you claiming the 100 Asian gangsters who attacked EDL members did not assault police officers (but they weren't arrested)?
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event horizon wrote: Are you claiming the 100 Asian gangsters who attacked EDL members did not assault police officers (but they weren't arrested)?


Shafique is too quick in gloating. It's going to happen.

She (Met spokeswoman) added: "All those on the coach were arrested for public order offences and an investigation is ongoing to identify others outside the bus who participated in the disorder."
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It should have been pretty easy to have arrested the Asian gangsters.

They were the ones with the bricks (not bottle rockets) in their hands.

Strange, you throw bricks in a Western society at other people *in front* of police and the police don't pick you up.

Now why is that?
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Re: Fascist, Drunken Thugs Arrested Sep 08, 2011
What - again with the Police conspiracy theory? :roll:

Your fascist drunken louts were the ones arrested by the Police - the anti-fascists weren't arrested. Reasonable people would say that you are being silly by trying to portray the anti-fascists as the bad guys when they weren't the ones who were arrested!

But let's be clear, I would support any arrests against those who caused material damage or broke any law - I don't support violent protests. We'll see how many of the anti-fascists were involved in violence, and how much of this is loon hype.

The funny part and poetic justice is that ALL the louts on the coach were arrested because their coach broke down and the police had a gift-wrapped present of drunken EDL louts!! :D

Stick to facts and not hype and you won't look so silly.

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I'm sorry, is throwing deadly objects with malicious intent and clashing with police officers - according to the BBC report - not criminal offenses in Britain?

All the more for people with common sense like the EDL to protest against the downward spiral Britain has been headed for the past few decades.
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event horizon wrote:It should have been pretty easy to have arrested the Asian gangsters.

They were the ones with the bricks (not bottle rockets) in their hands.

Strange, you throw bricks in a Western society at other people *in front* of police and the police don't pick you up.

Now why is that?


Something is rotten in the state of Denmark... where "anti-fascists" looted stores, set fire on buses and buildings and threw stones to ambulances and police officers in front of riot police in Tottenham and TV bradcasted it all over the World like a football match.

Only 1000 people later were arrested, but those, who didn't, are not the bad guys... No, no... of cause not. :wink:
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