For fanbois East Jerusalem poses a particularly thorny problem. This stems from the fact that the law is pretty clear on the status of East Jerusalem and it is extremely difficult to spin the fact Israel has violated international law.
In fact there is an explicit UN resolution which even the US did not vote against - 478.
In the other thread, there seems to be an aversion to even acknowledge the facts about East Jerusalem and an intense desire to state a point of view that the residents of East Jerusalem may not object to Israel refusing to relinquish their occupation. This is certainly a vaild and logical view for the Israelis who live in East Jerusalem - but for those non-Jewish residents who don't have citizenship - this seems to be a view that should come with some evidence.
But, let's start with the facts about East Jerusalem.
B'tselem have a section devoted to the injustices being carried out there - but this is the background in full:
Since East Jerusalem was annexed in 1967, the government of Israel’s primary goal in Jerusalem has been to create a demographic and geographic situation that will thwart any future attempt to challenge Israeli sovereignty over the city. To achieve this goal, the government has been taking actions to increase the number of Jews, and reduce the number of Palestinians, living in the city.
At the end of 2005, the population of Jerusalem stood at 723,700: 482,500 Jews (67 percent) and 241,200 Palestinians (33 percent). About 58 percent of the residents live on land that was annexed in 1967 (45 percent of whom are Jews, and 55 percent Palestinians). With the Palestinians having a higher growth rate than the Jews, Israel has used various methods to achieve its goal:
Physically isolating East Jerusalem from the rest of the West Bank, in part by building the separation barrier;
Discriminating in land expropriation, planning, and building, and demolition of houses;
Revoking residency and social benefits of Palestinians who stay abroad for at least seven years, or who are unable to prove that their center of life is in Jerusalem;
Unfairly dividing the budget between the two parts of the city, with harmful effects on infrastructure and services in East Jerusalem.
Israel’s policy gravely infringes the rights of residents of East Jerusalem and flagrantly breaches international law.
East Jerusalem is occupied territory. Therefore, it is subject, as is the rest of the West Bank, to the provisions of international humanitarian law that relate to occupied territory. The annexation of East Jerusalem breaches international law, which prohibits unilateral annexation. For this reason, the international community, including the United States, does not recognize the annexation of East Jerusalem.
http://www.btselem.org/English/Jerusalem/
Pretty categoric.
They also list all the injustices and give details in these sections.:
Legal status ; Separation Barrier in Jerusalem ; Family unification and child registration ; Revocation of residency ; Revocation of social rights ; Planning, building and expropriation of land ; Neglect of infrastructure and services ; Data on revocation of residency ; Data on demolition of houses built without permits ; Data on land expropriation ; Data on building starts.
Now - I would indeed be most interested to hear whether B'tselem could have got all the above so wrong, and read what evidence there is to support such a view.
In the peace negotiations, the Palestinians are quite rightly going to start from the point of view that UN resolutions on East Jerusalem are followed. Israel is going to try keep East Jerusalem. Whether they use FD's excuses/justifications remains to be seen - but at least in this thread we can read and compare the facts given above with the counter-arguments that FD thinks he has.
Cheers,
Shafique