Shafique wrote:As I said, it remains to be seen whether Ibrahim's prediction of a slide into persecution of Copts will become reality:
Why should the copts be persecuted?.. Copts or say jews and christians during Ottoman empire were ruled in millet system. They were able to live in coexistance without racist,discriminative attitude towards one another, as Islam was embracing the book of people all together..
Splitting empires into nation league states came as a solution to the European culture of racist/discriminative tradition. For example in middleages of Europe, Christians would not allow jews into universities, not let them engage in agricultural work, they couldn't be government officers, military service man etc.., this is one of the reasons why jews became so good at trading goods and money hence becoming good at banking and financial services business.
Now compare this christian attitude to the muslim Umayyad rule in Spain, jews were enjoying life to their full potential, it's due to this effect that everytime they had troubled with christians, they would often flee to the ottoman empire and call the help of sultans..
Now when it comes to Armenians; Ottoman empire was pushed into first world war even though they were neutral, cause it wasn't really their war, It was judeo/christian European agreement war.. Brits pushed ottomans to align themselves with Germans.. Why? becuse they were the main empires in the way of establishing these nations states.. Ottomans in particular had to be destroyed for lawless, stateless ME so that Israel could be accomodated there as a legal state. To realize this of course they were gonna cause war against Ottomans and make them loosers in order to occupy lands.
After ottoman empires' destruction, all its millets became stateless without a ruling body while Brits were organising the borders for them. say Armenia for Armenians, jews for Israel, Greeks were for Greece and Arabs were into many nations...
To move ottoman armenians back to their new country.. like many European leaders of the war era was, zionists collobarated with allies for an appointment of a new single party regime in Turkey(Committee of Union and Progress party) that also started to behave like fascist hitler and musolini. As a said earlier, these new roles were all a tailor made to suit each country.All regimes of Europe were behaving in the same fashion. But contrast this fascist acting Turks to the peaceful existance in ottoman times.. what a difference eh? So armenians too had to be expelled, forced to emigration..For this to happen,allies had also collobarated with fascist nationalist armenian gang band leaders given them the role to incite the feelings of armenians promising them a new land, while playing against the feeling of Turks for nationalist vein..Ottoman Turks were being destroyed just as German Empire and its people were.. so allies got everyone, each side involved in clash and fights,eventually driving armenians out.. This was the allies implemented senario played really well by everyone at all times.. Of course like many ethnicities suffered in Europe due to forced expulsions, Armenians and Turks suffered all together. Thousands of people from both sides died as a result of fights, flight,torment,epidemics, starvation, diseases,cold weather conditions,underdeveloped roads/transport systems etc.
This is why I cannot call deaths in world wars as the holocaust of jews only, but the holocaust of all nations from Europe into ME.. Both world wars were great destruction of European societies.. Not particular to Jews or Armenians but everbody be it on etnic or religious grounds.. I now hope that with the downfall of European implemented muslim/islam hostile (but jewish friendly) regimes to accomadate Israel gets toppled all together and once more people learn to live in coexistance again together..
It woun't be easy but is the work of politicians isn't it? That's why they get paid for...
--- Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:02 am ---Morsi salutes the martyrs: I wouldn't be here today as first freely elected prez without the sacrifices of the martyrs and injured...