event horizon wrote:In what was an incident where US forces incinerated Korans defaced by Taliban prisoners without intent to cause controversy
What a load of crap. I did not read anywhere that the Korans were defaced by Taliban prisoners. There was no mistake in what those soldiers did, they knew very well what they were doing. I guess peeing on dead bodies wasn't meant to "cause controversy" either?
U.S. officials have said that the Qurans were confiscated from prisoners on the base and mistakenly discarded in an incinerator
If the Taliban want to use the Koran to wipe their behinds, so be it. The soldiers knew exactly what they were doing - taking the Koran away from the Taliban and burning the Koran was a deliberate act. 11 years in that region and the US soldiers don't "get it"??
I bet Saddam, Mubarak, Quaddafi are looking good to the US and NATO right about now. They knew how to keep the animals in the cage. You don't take 19th Century tribal mentality and think it's going to change overnight. It's like giving a bunch of 5 year olds loaded handguns and tell them to play nice.
In the case of Egypt the international support ended up turning Egypt over to the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood. They arrested Americans and the US had to pay $300,000 for each one to be released. But wait, wasn't it worth it because the son of the Secretary of Transportation was amongst them? Without his presence I wonder if the US would still be negotiating for the release of the others. How's "liberating Egypt" working out Obama? How's Iraq's liberation working out? And we can see how well Libya is doing. Next? Yeman? Syria? 11 years in Afghanistan, do you think when the troops leave we are going to see a more westernized, civilized country? I don't think so. It will revert to what it was within 11 days. You don't let an animal that grew up in a cage lose to roam freely. When you put your hand out to offer it food, its natural instinct will be to bite the hand that feeds it.
These are not "OOPS" moments. There is no second change to fix what the international community broke. These are historical changes to countries with no success, but absolute failure. What is it: if you fail, try, try again? Country after country? All the lives lost of military and innocent people. The Brotherhood and fanatical groups sat back and watched as the US and other countries carve out a path for the moment they could step in. If North Korea is the axis of evil, why not release the people of that country, given them freedom and democracy, and change that government? Oh, I forgot, North Korea would actually be able to fight back.
If only the US and the international support had just stayed out of the region and not impose "freedom and democracy" on countries that never knew the meaning and are generations away from it, if it were ever to happen.
Obama told Americans he would bring "Change and Hope" to America. So far the country is worse off with his "change" and people are "hoping" that things will get better rather than worse. He ignores the laws, he ignores the constitution, he is imposing government on religion. Seems like he wants to create a government more like the governments that the US supported to be overthrown. If a country cannot fix it's own problems, how do they expect to fix what they perceive as problems in another country that had absolutely no impact on the US? If the government wanted to tackle terrorism, then they should have taken that money and made the US more secure, even if it meant tighter policing in the US.
Like anything else, if terrorists want to get you, they will get you, because if there is a will, there is a way. And the US sure is giving terrorists a reason to find a way. Maybe the terrorists won't because the US is giving them what they want - to run their own countries and fall back in time, rather than go forward.