Mahmoud04 wrote:
what happened! wow, what happens to freedom of speech, or morals that we keep hearing about...
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Mahmoud04 wrote:
what happened! wow, what happens to freedom of speech, or morals that we keep hearing about...
rudeboy wrote:lol these guys are bunch of fairies seriously!!! lol it took 4 men to handcuff the boy and to put him in the car hahhahh
by the way I dont think he is american. If he was the americans would have sent a bloody fleat to pull him out, as they do in other countries
symmetric wrote:Anyhow, like I've said before, you'll ALWAYS find Jews who support the Palestinian case, but never vice-versa. What does that tell you?
symmetric wrote:Anyhow, like I've said before, you'll ALWAYS find Jews who support the Palestinian case, but never vice-versa. What does that tell you?
Dillon wrote:symmetric wrote:Anyhow, like I've said before, you'll ALWAYS find Jews who support the Palestinian case, but never vice-versa. What does that tell you?
It tells me that the Israeli’s are a free thinking people who exercise their opinions through freedom of speech and the Palestinians are scared of the reprisals from their terrorist Governments if they ever did!
Brave American Jewish Youth? Fool who achieved everything he set out to do!
Dillon wrote:symmetric wrote:Anyhow, like I've said before, you'll ALWAYS find Jews who support the Palestinian case, but never vice-versa. What does that tell you?
It tells me that the Israeli’s are a free thinking people who exercise their opinions through freedom of speech and the Palestinians are scared of the reprisals from their terrorist Governments if they ever did!
Brave American Jewish Youth? Fool who achieved everything he set out to do!
Bora Bora wrote:Dillon wrote:symmetric wrote:Anyhow, like I've said before, you'll ALWAYS find Jews who support the Palestinian case, but never vice-versa. What does that tell you?
It tells me that the Israeli’s are a free thinking people who exercise their opinions through freedom of speech and the Palestinians are scared of the reprisals from their terrorist Governments if they ever did!
Brave American Jewish Youth? Fool who achieved everything he set out to do!
Dillon anyone is free to think!!! The boy said what he thought and was pounced on, restrained, and probably taken to jail and "taught a lesson" at the hands of the police. That's hardly freedom of speech.
More than likely they cancelled his Israeli passport.
Dillon wrote:Yes, if we were to take the video at face value, this is what happened, I however question the political messages behind anonymous Youtube videos, exactly as I would a video which portrayed racist Israeli propaganda of which there is a plethora of material to choose from!
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Israel Police claims the young man attacked and bit an officer - however, the video does not show Lucas provoking any officers. It shows a group of policemen forcing him to the ground and handcuffing him; as a result, he required medical treatment afterward.
For his part, Lucas adamantly denies that he attacked a police officer.
"I didn't bite anyone," he says. "The police officer showed me his cuts [later], but they were caused by a sharp instrument, and there weren't any bite marks."
Lucas was held in detention for two days. The Jerusalem Magistrate's Court denied a police request to extend his remand; at the advice of his lawyer and family, the youth left the country after being released.
symmetric wrote:Anyhow, like I've said before, you'll ALWAYS find Jews who support the Palestinian case, but never vice-versa. What does that tell you?
Arrested American using Internet limelight to speak out on Palestinian rights
19-year-old Lucas Koerner was arrested while demonstrating solidarity with Palestinians on Jerusalem Day.
By David Sheen
Since a video of his arrest at a Jerusalem Day parade garnered over a quarter of a million hits on YouTube in under a week, 19-year-old American Lucas Koerner has become an unwilling Internet darling. The Tufts University sophomore says he wishes it would all go away, but is still using his 15 minutes to draw attention to the plight of protesters and Palestinians.
"I never wanted this, I don't really want this, I kind of resent all this sudden surge of public attention," he says.
Koerner's arrest during a left wing Jerusalem Day demonstration was captured by an amateur videographer. In the four-and-a-half-minute clip Koerner is seen holding his American passport and discussing his views, while wearing both a Jewish skullcap and a Palestinian kafiyeh. Koerner, who is not religiously observant, says he doesn't see any dissonance in the juxtaposition of the two.
"My understanding of the Jewish ethical tradition comes primarily from my knowledge of the Jewish historical experience," he says. "I feel they are the principal determining factors: our ethical tradition, our struggles for justice, going back to the 19th-century shtetl, where my great-grandmother was hunted by the Cossacks, in pogroms."
"Every Jewish person has that memory at some point in their family. And he or she, in remaining faithful to that memory, must struggle against all forms of oppression and inequality," he adds. "That has informed my worldview, more than anything else."
Koerner, 19, says that he went to his first anti-war demonstration in Washington, D.C. on his 15th birthday, but says he remembers being against the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11, when he was in fourth grade.
Though disappointed that his time here was cut short by his arrest, his experiences haven't soured his belief in universal justice.
"Fundamentally, justice means solidarity with all human beings, period, and an identification with a necessity to protect them," he says. "And at the same time to fundamentally alter the circumstances which perpetuate oppression and situations that put them in harm's way."