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Boycotting the Boycotters May 18, 2010
Another interesting article from the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

Levy points out a hypocritical stance which is often overloooked:
Doctors, professors, artists, jurists, intellectuals, economists, engineers - none of them are permitted to enter Gaza. This is a complete boycott that bears the tag “Made in Israel.” Those who speak about immoral and ineffective boycotts do so without batting an eye when it comes to Gaza.....
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So you oppose a boycott against Israel? Then let’s first do away with all the boycotts we have imposed ourselves



Boycotting the boycotters
05.16.2010 | Haaretz

While the international boycott against apartheid South Africa is credited with leading to the regime’s downfall, here it is considered irrelevant and unworthy of comparison.
By Gideon Levy.

Most people here are appalled at the notion that anybody beyond Israel’s borders would think to boycott their country, products or universities. Boycotts, after all, are viewed in Israel as illegitimate. Anyone who calls for such a step is perceived as an anti-Semite and Israel-hater who is undermining the state’s very right to exist. In Israel itself, those who call for a boycott are branded as traitors and heretics. The notion that a boycott, limited as it may be, is likely to convince Israel to change its ways - and for its own benefit - is not tolerated here.

Even an obvious, logical step - like the Palestinian Authority’s boycott of products made in the settlements - is viewed by hypocritical Israeli eyes as provocative. Moreover, while the international boycott against apartheid South Africa is credited with leading to the regime’s downfall, here it is considered irrelevant and unworthy of comparison.

It would be possible to identify with these intolerant reactions were it not for the fact that Israel itself is one of the world’s prolific boycotters. Not only does it boycott, it preaches to others, at times even forces others, to follow in tow. Israel has imposed a cultural, academic, political, economic and military boycott on the territories. At the same time, almost no one here utters a dissenting word questioning the legitimacy of these boycotts. Yet the thought of boycotting the boycotter? Now that’s inconceivable.

The most brutal, naked boycott is, of course, the siege on Gaza and the boycott of Hamas. At Israel’s behest, nearly all Western countries signed onto the boycott with inexplicable alacrity. This is not just a siege that has left Gaza in a state of shortage for three years. Nor is it just a complete (and foolish ) boycott of Hamas, save for the discussions over abducted soldier Gilad Shalit. It’s a series of cultural, academic, humanitarian and economic boycotts. Israel threatens nearly every diplomat who seeks to enter Gaza to see firsthand the unbearable sights.

In addition, Israel bars entry to anyone who wishes to lend humanitarian aid. We should note that the boycott isn’t just against Hamas, but against all Gaza, everyone who lives there. The convoy of ships that will soon sail from Europe to try to break the siege will carry thousands of tons of construction material, prefab houses and medicine. Israel has announced that it plans to stop the vessels. A boycott is a boycott.

Doctors, professors, artists, jurists, intellectuals, economists, engineers - none of them are permitted to enter Gaza. This is a complete boycott that bears the tag “Made in Israel.” Those who speak about immoral and ineffective boycotts do so without batting an eye when it comes to Gaza.

Israel is also urging the world to boycott Iran. But it’s not just Gaza and Iran that are at issue here, because entry into Israel and the West Bank is being affected by the recent frenzy of boycotts. Anyone who is suspected of supporting the Palestinians or expressing concern for their lot is boycotted and expelled. This group includes a clown who came to organize a conference; a peace activist who was due to appear at a symposium; and scientists, artists and intellectuals who arouse suspicions that they back the Palestinian cause. This is a cultural and academic boycott on all counts, the type of boycott that we reject when it is used against us.

Yet the anti-boycott country’s list of boycotted parties does not end there. Even a Jewish-American organization like J Street, which defines itself as pro-Israel, has felt the long arm of the Israeli boycott. It is permissible to boycott J Street because it champions peace, but we can’t tolerate a boycott of products made in settlements that were built on usurped land. Denying a visiting professor entry into Gaza for an appearance at a university does not qualify as a boycott, but cutting off ties with Israeli institutions that provide fast-track degree programs for army officers and interrogators in the Shin Bet security service - people who are often viewed around the world as complicit in war crimes - is viewed as verboten.

Yes, an Israeli who lives in Israel will have a hard time preaching to others about the virtues of a boycott when that person does not boycott his or her own country or university. But it is his right to believe that a boycott could compel his government to end the occupation. As long as the Israelis don’t pay any price, there won’t be a change.

This is a legitimate, moral position. It is no less legitimate or moral than those who claim that a boycott is an immoral, ineffective tool while exercising that same option against others. So you oppose a boycott against Israel? Then let’s first do away with all the boycotts we have imposed ourselves


http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/op ... s-1.290573

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Re: Boycotting the Boycotters May 18, 2010
Those who want to boycott Israeli products should be consequent about it. People doing that wouldn't be able to post on this forum for example :idea: . So lets see whether the boycotters are consequent, and not hypocrites, like only boycotting when it is convenient for them. Of course, they also need to boycott a lot of medicin. I dare you! Berrin already stated once he rather wants to die than take a pill produced by Zionists. Thats how far hatred can go! Sad really.
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Re: Boycotting The Boycotters May 18, 2010
Levy's point was that those opposing boycotts against Israel should also oppose the boycotts Israel imposes.

Otherwise it would be hypocritical.

He makes a good point - and it just adds to the widely held view that bullies don't like the taste of their own medicine.

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Re: Boycotting the Boycotters May 18, 2010
Everybody posting on this forum is using software produced in Israel and indirecty funding Israels army, navy and air force and prisons for Arab terrorists. I say, keep on going!
No boycotters here obviously.
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Re: Boycotting The Boycotters May 18, 2010
Who are you arguing with FD?

Is Levy wrong to point out that Israel's opposition to boycotts against it is hypocritical?

Or are you saying that those who call for the boycotts should be as stringent as Israel is with Gaza? I'm sure some guys here will agree with you if you take this logical line of argument.

I'll rather stick with the view that there should rather be adherance to International Law. But hey, that's just me I guess. The stalker who offends fanbois with facts! ;)

#you're so vain, you're so vain... you probably think this post is about you, don't you...# :albino:

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Re: Boycotting The Boycotters May 18, 2010
shafique wrote:you probably think this post is about you, don't you...


I bet you fouled a lot of people with opening your post with:

shafique wrote:Who are you arguing with FD?


About boycotting. Israel will survive without US aid. Israel will not survive without people using the internet. People who want Israel on her knees should boycott the internet!
Every post counts (where did I hear that before? :mrgreen: ). Probably for a few agoroth spend on Israels army.
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Re: Boycotting The Boycotters May 18, 2010
Still not clear who you are arguing against, FD. You seem to be rambling now. ;)

But hey, if it makes you feel better that each of our posts is contributing to Israel - there are worse things to be happy about!

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Re: Boycotting the Boycotters May 18, 2010
I just checked...all my software is Israel-lite.

Handwritten in Bangalore.

Pirated out of Tehran.

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Re: Boycotting The Boycotters May 19, 2010
It's hard to find any software that isn't 'cracked' and readily available on torrents - or, for the more ethical amongst us, open source (and free).

But hey, I didn't want to rain on FD's parade - he was happy as Larry that people he thought were anti-Semites were all contributing to Israel's coffers! I'll go and eat my Jaffa orange now... ;)

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Re: Boycotting the Boycotters May 19, 2010
I was always a big fan of Geoffrey Boycott, he was a real character.

Or is that off thread?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Boycotting The Boycotters May 19, 2010
Well, it is a bit of a googly. :lol:

What do we do as mods in this situation - do we spank ourselves? :shock:

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Re: Boycotting The Boycotters May 20, 2010
shafique wrote:Well, it is a bit of a googly. :lol:

What do we do as mods in this situation - do we spank ourselves? :shock:

:bigsmurf:


I do, frequently!

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