Afghanistan…Where Empires Go To Die

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Afghanistan…Where Empires go to Die Jun 25, 2009
Afghanistan…Where Empires go to Die

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The 3 rules of Real Estate: LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION!

Afghanistan…in the wrong place for 3,ooo years…

The greatest Empires in written history stumbled into the great Afghanistan quagmire, and eventually disapeared into the mire:

The Greeks…2340 years ago:


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Alexander the Great conquered Afghanistan in 330 BCE, but after 25 years of occupation he got his arse kicked to the curb by the Turks and soon after the Greek Empire collapsed.

The Great Roman Empire invaded and began an occupation of Afghanistan in the the first century AD, but in 220 Parthian Persia vassal, Ardashir, kicked their arse to the curb and thus began the fall of the greatest Empire in history.


In 1219 Genghis Khan invaded and occupied Afghanistan with the same result.

The British get a nice panel beating Job done to their ego in Afghanistan, after invading and installing Shah Shuja as a "puppet king" (1839-1842)

MODERN HISTORY

After WWII there were only two great empires: The United States and Russia. In the 1980s the commies put all their chips on the table and Reagan matched them with $3,000,000,000 of our tax dollars to Osama bin Laden and his warlord Taliban buddies in Afghanistan. And then, Ronnie raised the bet by forcing Saudi Arabia to throw another $3,000,000,000 into the pot. Russia went bust and bin Laden became a superstar.

Today America is posed to wage a full scale occupation of Afghanistan…Will our fate be any different than the Greeks, the Roman Empire, the Huns or the Russians?


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britisharab
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Jun 28, 2009
Sounds like a preview of a Playstation 2 game.

When will it be out buddy?
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Jun 30, 2009
I thought it was some realestate sales pitch:

U WANNA BEACHFRONT PROPERTY IN DUBAI, WELL WE GOTTA PLACE FOR U, LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION
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Jul 02, 2009
US launches major offensive Afghanistan



Remember that Ghengis Khan was the last foreign military adventurer to successfully go into Afghanistan - He did not succeed by being feint of heart.

"Where we go we will stay, and where we stay," Marine Corps Brigadier General Larry Nicholson, commander of the Marines in southern Afghanistan said in a statement.

God bless American Marines and America and Great Britain
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Jul 03, 2009
michaeldubai wrote:Sounds like a preview of a Playstation 2 game.

When will it be out buddy?


:lol: :wink: :lol:
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Jul 04, 2009
Coming Soon.....!!!

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britisharab
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Jul 04, 2009
Hey man,

Its ok for you to post your crazy political pics here, but if you ever get mistaken for being involved in any type of terrorism and they get your hard drive, your a dead man. They aint never going to leave you alone.
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Jul 26, 2009
Guardasil wrote:Hey man,

Its ok for you to post your crazy political pics here, but if you ever get mistaken for being involved in any type of terrorism and they get your hard drive, your a dead man. They aint never going to leave you alone.


He's a terrorist because he posts cartoons? Some free world.
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Jul 28, 2009
what is it that interest world powers in Afghanistan ? location ? natural resources if any or the mountains ? I mean why would America spend billions to so? I'm not buying this Taliban or bin laden story.. they have been their for ages, why now ?
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Jul 29, 2009
uaekid wrote:what is it that interest world powers in Afghanistan ? location ? natural resources if any or the mountains ? I mean why would America spend billions to so? I'm not buying this Taliban or bin laden story.. they have been their for ages, why now ?


There's nothing like a well informed person. And there's nothing like having an education to go with it. :roll:
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uaekid wrote:what is it that interest world powers in Afghanistan ? location ? natural resources if any or the mountains ? I mean why would America spend billions to so? I'm not buying this Taliban or bin laden story.. they have been their for ages, why now ?



natural gas, minerals such as uranium, nickel, copper, iron and probably the oil. We all know whereever there are pockets of gas there will be oil.

Oh by the way i think its afghanistan or pakistan that has the worlds highest flatland. hmm use your imagination and imagine what they could do there :D
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Jul 31, 2009
American economy is already succumbed, and it s gonna face the same fate.
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Aug 07, 2009
uaekid wrote:what is it that interest world powers in Afghanistan ? location ? natural resources if any or the mountains ? I mean why would America spend billions to so? I'm not buying this Taliban or bin laden story.. they have been their for ages, why now ?


Ummm...heard of Russia and China? Does it surprise you that the US wants a military base near those two countries?
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Aug 07, 2009
The US have been interested in a pipeline across Afghanistan for a long while now. In 1997 the Taliban were in Texas negotiating with Unocal (whom Hamid Karzai worked for - "coincidence")

And indeed even in March 2001 the Taliban were sending negotiators to the US, and there is even a revealing interview with a Taliban spokesperson in the NYT from that time.

Here's an article from 1997:

Taleban in Texas for talks on gas pipeline

The 1,300km pipeline will carry gas across Afghanistan's harsh terrain
A senior delegation from the Taleban movement in Afghanistan is in the United States for talks with an international energy company that wants to construct a gas pipeline from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to Pakistan.

A spokesman for the company, Unocal, said the Taleban were expected to spend several days at the company's headquarters in Sugarland, Texas.

Unocal says it has agreements both with Turkmenistan to sell its gas and with Pakistan to buy it.

The Afghan economy has been devasted by 20 years of civil war
But, despite the civil war in Afghanistan, Unocal has been in competition with an Argentinian firm, Bridas, to actually construct the pipeline.

Last month, the Argentinian firm, Bridas, announced that it was close to signing a two-billion dollar deal to build the pipeline, which would carry gas 1,300 kilometres from Turkmenistan to Pakistan, across Afghanistan.

In May, Taleban-controlled radio in Kabul said a visiting delegation from an Argentinian company had announced that pipeline construction would start "soon".

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The radio has reported several visits to Kabul by Unocal and Bridas company officials over the past few months.

A BBC regional correspondent says the proposal to build a pipeline across Afghanistan is part of an international scramble to profit from developing the rich energy resources of the Caspian Sea.


With the various Afghan factions still at war, the project has looked from the outside distinctly unpromising.

Last month the Taleban Minister of Information and Culture, Amir Khan Muttaqi, said the Taleban had held talks with both American and Argentine-led consortia over transit rights but that no final agreement had yet been reached. He said an official team from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkmenistan should meet to ensure each country benefited from any deal.

However, Unocal clearly believes it is still in with a chance - to the extent that it has already begun training potential staff.

It has commissioned the University of Nebraska to teach Afghan men the technical skills needed for pipeline construction. Nearly 140 people were enrolled last month in Kandahar and Unocal also plans to hold training courses for women in administrative skills.

Women face working restrictions under Taleban rule

Although the Taleban authorities only allow women to work in the health sector, organisers of the training say they haven't so far raised any objections.

The BBC regional correspondent says the Afghan economy has been devastated by 20 years of civil war. A deal to go ahead with the pipeline project could give it a desperately-needed boost.

But peace must be established first -- and that for the moment still seems a distant prospect.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm
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