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So let me get this straight - this kicked off after VW (quite rightly in my opinion) asked DJ to stop hinting at a members personal details.

Issues or what????

I don't know! The whole exchange is weird to me! Perhaps they know each other and have a lot of baggage?

I think it was the comment of smelling of wee that tipped him over the edge??? Or maybe it was the fumes of stale urine!!!

Super – so what have I learnt today?

I’ve been wrong about everything across my life, it’s ALL my fault
I was little more than an entry level bean counter at DW
I have a superiority complex with an inflated ego
Everybody made money in Dubai apart from me
I am waiting for some fairy godmother to ‘rescue’ me
And I need a major personality transplant

Well, don’t I feel deflated – thank you for sharing your analysis and kind words

You are of course right to feel that you alone have the right to sneakily hint at BM’s personal info
You are of course right to demand that people post you their phone numbers on an internet forum
You are of course right that I can barely add two numbers together let alone multiply
You are of course right that I was beaten up by a fat girl at an all male boarding school
You are of course right that I am a gutless failure in life without courage
You are of course right that I have a huge chip on my shoulder

Now, raise your right arm, palm facing inwards, place hand on your right shoulder and clap up and down and repeat after me “I am a god, NO ONE can touch me” repeat until hoarse

And whilst we are doing lists

Dubai is a fabulous success
Dubai World is a world leading business run by world class people with new standards of governance and transparency that will eventually dominate the world
There is no corruption in Dubai

Wow, do I feel better, and to think I was paying thousands in therapy and all it took was to listen to you. You were right about everything but I feel so much better for getting it off my chest.

I have to rush off now as the toilets in the park don’t clean themselves you know ...

I think from this thread we have learned that Shaf is clearly not DearJohn! Geez, Herve and RC are going to be upset!

kanelli wrote:I think from this thread we have learned that Shaf is clearly not DearJohn! Geez, Herve and RC are going to be upset!

Anything constructive to add Kanelli?

Have you been sitting on something? You seem a bit excitable today.

-- Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:06 pm --

patience wrote:So let me get this straight - this kicked off after VW (quite rightly in my opinion) asked DJ to stop hinting at a members personal details.

Issues or what????

Issues in that he thinks he's quite clever. He's getting off on thinking he knows something that nobody else does. As in Beth, age 5, with her secret, that isn't a secret after all.

-- Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:08 pm --

kanelli wrote:I don't know! The whole exchange is weird to me! Perhaps they know each other and have a lot of baggage?

DJ thinks he knows a lot doesn't he? Obviously he thinks he's a bit of a hard nut.

No I don't think DJ is Shaf but I do think he/she is a Muslim. Don't think he/she is particularly clever either having just read through the exchange with Drew (was terribly childish and pointless). Agree with BM thinks they are cleverer than they are.

Oh and I forgot to point out Patience that John has used my surname in a number of posts. You may have missed it as we haven't been introduced. As I say, not news to most here.

So not only an idiot but not a very nice idiot.

Bethsmum wrote:

kanelli wrote:I think from this thread we have learned that Shaf is clearly not DearJohn! Geez, Herve and RC are going to be upset!

Anything constructive to add Kanelli?

Have you been sitting on something? You seem a bit excitable today.

And what constructive comments have you added on the topic of your own thread?

I was on topic with my initial posts, unlike others who seem to be talking about many other non-thread-related issues.

Obviously I've been missing a lot, had no idea people were talking about others' personal info - again! Haven't we all been down this road before? Too bad that tit for tat and revealing people's personal info has become so acceptable here. Not cool.

kanelli wrote:Obviously I've been missing a lot, had no idea people were talking about others' personal info - again! Haven't we all been down this road before? Too bad that tit for tat and revealing people's personal info has become so acceptable here. Not cool.

So, at least some of us would appear to agree on that.

viking-warrior wrote:Super – so what have I learnt today?

I’ve been wrong about everything across my life, it’s ALL my fault
I was little more than an entry level bean counter at DW
I have a superiority complex with an inflated ego
Everybody made money in Dubai apart from me
I am waiting for some fairy godmother to ‘rescue’ me
And I need a major personality transplant

Generally OK but it was “insignificant bean counter” not entry level and I never said that you were waiting for fairy godmother but just that she wasn’t coming to save you. Also lets refer to it as cognitive behaviour therapy rather than personality transplants.

viking-warrior wrote:Well, don’t I feel deflated – thank you for sharing your analysis and kind words

Its my pleasure. I try to help whenever I can.

viking-warrior wrote:You are of course right to feel that you alone have the right to sneakily hint at BM’s personal info
You are of course right to demand that people post you their phone numbers on an internet forum
You are of course right that I can barely add two numbers together let alone multiply
You are of course right that I was beaten up by a fat girl at an all male boarding school
You are of course right that I am a gutless failure in life without courage
You are of course right that I have a huge chip on my shoulder

You get an A+ grade on the last 4 statements which are spot on but I fear that you are slipping back to becoming a full fledged tw*t again by including the first two. Let me try and set you straight again.

Firstly, the sneaky hint at BM’s personal info which you refer to is out there for anyone to see so I don’t really see anything personal in it. If she wishes to protect her info like many others do its really quite simple. On the issue of providing hints, correct me if I am wrong, but hasn’t BM taunted other DF’ers in the past about their personal details? I recall reading about an incident where BM made some subtle threats to DDS about potential imprisonment associated to his cohabitation arrangements. There was also a recent insinuation that she had seen Shaf’s profile and found him to be tubby. You see these are BM’s or as I like to refer to her Polka’s rules not mine so if you want to play the self righteous pr1ck and embark on little moral crusades try and at least be consistent.

In terms of the phone numbers I think your brain has become a bit soggy on this issue. I never “demanded” that you post your phone numbers on this forum, I requested that you provide me with them if you wanted to make contact. I think along with your therapy I am going to prescribe you some anti-fibbing pills so that your warped sense of logic can come to terms with what was actually said on the previous posts and who said them, both of which you seem to have trouble with regularly.

viking-warrior wrote:Now, raise your right arm, palm facing inwards, place hand on your right shoulder and clap up and down and repeat after me “I am a god, NO ONE can touch me” repeat until hoarse

Please kneel before and except me as your true master and lord before we start.

viking-warrior wrote:And whilst we are doing lists

Not sure whether this is really relevant to your therapy. It seems that you are trying to justify your own colossal failures in Dubai and DW with the problems that exist within Dubai itself. You need to separate these two issues to progress with your therapy and understand that your level of arrogance was unsustainable and due for a major downsizing regardless of the environment that you were placed in.

Let me try and help correct some of the deep seeded issues which seem to be troubling you.

viking-warrior wrote: Dubai is a fabulous success

Too generalist – depends on your measure? If its relative to the rest of the shambles in the middle east then yes I would say its pretty fab but certainly not for all.

viking-warrior wrote:Dubai World is a world leading business run by world class people with new standards of governance and transparency that will eventually dominate the world

Not by any stretch of the imagination but its a government entity based in Dubai. Even in the private sector I doubt most large corporations in the world are run with excellent governance and transparency. You may want to look at banks and defence companies for reference.

viking-warrior wrote:There is no corruption in Dubai

Corruption is everywhere to varying degrees and also present in Dubai . However, I don’t think Dubai stands out on either end of the corruption barometer if the scale includes the whole world.

viking-warrior wrote:Wow, do I feel better, and to think I was paying thousands in therapy and all it took was to listen to you. You were right about everything but I feel so much better for getting it off my chest.

They said it wouldn’t work but I was quietly confident. They said you wouldn’t embrace change but I told them to give you time. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind and think your case proves to all the doubters out there that even the most sanctimonious and pretentious pr1ck can be responsive to the right therapy. Well done, this is a milestone for you.

viking-warrior wrote:I have to rush off now as the toilets in the park don’t clean themselves you know ...

Your work ethic impresses me but please remember this is not DW. Even though someone will come along in a few minutes and sh1t all over your hard work it’s no reason to cut corners like you did before. Now put your back into it and show them that what clean really means. I am sure they will move you up to sinks in no time at this rate.

My best, keep up the good work
Dr. DJ

If there was a like button you know I'd click it !

desertdudeshj wrote:If there was a like button you know I'd click it !

Dear God! Now you are copying Mahmouds sayings!

-- Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:07 am --

Now lets see BJ, where exactly are you getting your information from here? Are we to believe you have been sitting playing with yourself for the last year and a half, reading DF and not contributing, contributing under another user name and decided to reinvent yourself or have more than one user name?

Frankly I don't think anyone cares that much, but if you're getting your info drip fed from someone else then I think you need the other side of the coin to take a balanced view.

Firstly, the sneaky hint at BM’s personal info which you refer to is out there for anyone to see so I don’t really see anything personal in it. If she wishes to protect her info like many others do its really quite simple. On the issue of providing hints, correct me if I am wrong, but hasn’t BM taunted other DF’ers in the past about their personal details? I recall reading about an incident where BM made some subtle threats to DDS about potential imprisonment associated to his cohabitation arrangements. There was also a recent insinuation that she had seen Shaf’s profile and found him to be tubby.

When I first came to DF the little munchkin decided to google me or something, to find that I used to post on JBRcommunity. He took great delight in cross posting my posts while calling me whore and the like and vowed to drive me off DF.
Now when someone alerted me to his posting on expat.com where he gave his marital status or lack of it, and the fact that he was touting his Filipino girlfriend round as a possible entry ticket to Canada/Aus. I decided to have a bit of fun and do to him what he had done to me. Initially I asked DFers what would happen should my friend be caught living in Dubai whilst he wasn't married. I had some interesting replies which mentioned jail a lot. I also asked about Muslims shacking up together and got a very interesting reply from the Ayotolla.
All in good fun and then I decided to cross post his post. To give him his due he took it in good humour. That was until the Reverend Mother got hold of it and she started PMing everyone and his Aunty in an attempt to get me banned.
As far as I was concerned I was just doing to him what he did to me first.
At no time did I threaten to get him jailed or attempt to find out what his name was. The fact that he has posted pictures of himself on here, and his car reg would make detection very simple indeed.
Still it was fun while it lasted But personal info? No BJ you're barking up the wrong tree there, you need to bin your version of Wikipedia.
As for the Ayotollah, well, as much as he would like us all believe he takes the moral high ground, let me assure you, he can slip sometimes. Take the constant downloading of images of blondes and big knickers which he attaches to me and the recent 'light hearted' (his words) digs at my daughter (who has brain damage). So why not google him in return? How very amusing to see that he, himself, must shop in the big boy department.

so if you want to play the self righteous pr1ck and embark on little moral crusades try and at least be consistent.

Now let me get this clear....you call VK a self righteous feather for critising you ...but you post my surname and hint at my first name because I called Sir Shafique of Surrey a bit of a chubber?
I'm confused there John. Please can you clarify that statement for me? Why the need to defend the Ayotollah all of a sudden? I'm getting the picture of an Asian with Issues John.

You see BJ. If someone does to you, you do it back, in my world.
And what goes around, comes around. You'd do well to remember that.

DearJohn wrote:blah blah copy blah paste blah blah

Do you spend your days wondering what that “Whoosh” sound is?

“Whoosh” there it goes again, whistling around your ears like a swallow looking for a place to rest.

That’s the sound of all those things that you cannot and will never comprehend. All those things that are not literal: wit, humour, sarcasm, etc, things that others seem to be able to use with ease, yet you come over all fingers and thumbs when trying to handle, and to think that missive took you 24 hours to conjure up, just think how sharp and witty it would be if you had a whole week to take someone else’s prose and turn it into your own.

Unlike you, I have no need to cut’n’paste because I can retain a thought, develop an idea and put it down on paper in one go, without having to refer to a text verbatim.

You so clearly learned to perform parrot fashion at school and probably uni, but not in any subject that required the use of the creative side of your brain, not that that is a bad thing EXCEPT it shows up later in your life and in your career. Ever wonder why that glass ceiling just keeps pushing you down?

DF seems to be providing you with a means to vent your spleen against people that may perhaps not be as educated as you, or in a traditional, IQ, sense as intelligent as you, but have that something that no amount of study, extortion, purchasing power can ever provide you with, wit.

How amusing that you should chose to refer to cognitive behavioural therapy, which does what? CBT aims to solve problems concerning dysfunctional emotions, behaviours and cognitions through a goal-oriented, systematic procedure in the present. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_ ... al_therapy

You do seem to favour the workshop approach, with nice neatly arranged fixed goals, thus presupposing that everything in life falls into one category or another. So blinded are you by your structure that you fail to see or even ACCEPT that not everything need be as it appears.

“Whoosh”

Why do you speak of work ethic in such a derogatory manner? Is this something that you have read about, but yet again, because there is no workshop, class or course taught on it you just can’t get your head around it? If I was cleaning toilets, driving a taxi, or shining shoes, I would always want to be the best at it, put in time that was above and beyond what was required and invest myself into the job, not just turn up, punch the card and doss around until going home time. Ring any bells?

P3nis envy is such an ugly thing.

My challenge to you : ....

Let’s see if you can respond without cutting and pasting

DJ Your hinting at personal details WAS sneaky and wrong - and even if you believed that BM started this, didn't your mummy ever tell you 'two wrongs don't make a right'.

I think you will find it is deep-seated not deep-seeded. I hope you 'accept' these comments in good humour.

Bethsmum wrote:When I first came to DF the little munchkin decided to google me or something, to find that I used to post on JBRcommunity. He took great delight in cross posting my posts while calling me whore and the like and vowed to drive me off DF.
Now when someone alerted me to his posting on expat.com where he gave his marital status or lack of it, and the fact that he was touting his Filipino girlfriend round as a possible entry ticket to Canada/Aus. I decided to have a bit of fun and do to him what he had done to me. Initially I asked DFers what would happen should my friend be caught living in Dubai whilst he wasn't married. I had some interesting replies which mentioned jail a lot. I also asked about Muslims shacking up together and got a very interesting reply from the Ayotolla.
All in good fun and then I decided to cross post his post. To give him his due he took it in good humour. That was until the Reverend Mother got hold of it and she started PMing everyone and his Aunty in an attempt to get me banned.
As far as I was concerned I was just doing to him what he did to me first.
At no time did I threaten to get him jailed or attempt to find out what his name was. The fact that he has posted pictures of himself on here, and his car reg would make detection very simple indeed.
Still it was fun while it lasted

Actually, arniegang posted your stuff from JBR Community forum first, that's where DDS easily got the link here on DF. All he did was post you saying catty things about DFers and asking your friends to come and support you over here. That is hardly the same thing as posting a link to DDS's personal information that would not cause legal problems for him in that context, but certainly would here in the UAE. You were renting your apartment to a friend of DDS's and may have obtained his name by someone else on the forum giving it to you, just like how someone gave you the link to the thread where DDS posted in the other forum. It was a definite possibility that you did indeed have DDS's real name. There is a big difference in the content and consequences of what DDS posted and what you did - simple catty remarks made by you vs. info about illegal cohabitation in the UAE. Yours was clearly malicious and breaks forum rules about threatening people's off-forum life. Mentioning your police friend and that you'd have to ask him what would happen to the two law-breakers... sorry, but that is certainly a veiled threat if I ever saw one.

Thanks for the title of Reverend Mother, but I'm not religious. I'm just a simple gal who thinks it is extremely unethical to make a veiled threat to affect someone's off-forum life.

-- Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:12 pm --

patience wrote:DJ Your hinting at personal details WAS sneaky and wrong - and even if you believed that BM started this, didn't your mummy ever tell you 'two wrongs don't make a right'.

I think you will find it is deep-seated not deep-seeded. I hope you 'accept' these comments in good humour.

I agree, I don't think escalating things here regarding revealing people's personal details is the right thing to do. Its bad enough that one person did it and remains here today, continuing to propagate the "all is fair game" mentality when it suits her.

Do get off your high horse Kanelli. You need to get over yourself.

If DDS wished to copy other people's moves and copy and post my stuff from JBRcommunity then he should expect me to return the favour when I am able. The fact that he wants to spill the beans about his co habitation on an internet forum is his doing and I'm pleased that someone pointed me in that direction so that I could at least play on an even playing field.

I have no doubt in my mind that had he been able to gain that information about me he would have used it. Thats is not a 'definate possibility' but a fact. I've seen how low he can stoop lately, and that's lower than whale sh1t.

You seem to conveniently forget the fact that not only has he posted pictures of his ugly mug, but also his car registration on this forum.
Please rest assured that had I wished to obtain his personal details from my ex police friend, I could have done so with just a phone call. I wouldn't have considered wasting the price of a phone call on that no-mark.

I see you are now insinuationg that my tenant, DubaiDog, would give out personal information about other Dfers! Well that's a bit low isn't it? Not only are you involving someone who isn't here to defend themselves, but that was supposed to be a friend of yours too
Geez, with friends like you, Kanelli, one doesn't need enemies!

So that I can clear up an misunderstanding involving DubaiDog, he never gave out any details about anyone, nor was he asked to.

Veiled threats? You need to get out more Kanelli. I'm becoming some sort of fixation with you.

We've been through this before. I have no worries about what my friend DubaiDog would say, because he knows I haven't accused him. He's a stand-up guy and would never give you DDS's info if he knew you hated him and were going to do something nasty with it.

It is an interesting question about who gave you the link to DDS's thread on the other forum! That person got off clean after feeding you the info, because in the end it was you who exploited it and made yourself look bad by doing so. You got played both ways, willingly!

Lots of others here clearly saw what you posted as a veiled threat - so it doesn't matter how you try delude yourself.

kanelli wrote:We've been through this before. I have no worries about what my friend DubaiDog would say, because he knows I haven't accused him. He's a stand-up guy and would never give you DDS's info if he knew you hated him and were going to do something nasty with it.

It is an interesting question about who gave you the link to DDS's thread on the other forum! That person got off clean after feeding you the info, because in the end it was you who exploited it and made yourself look bad by doing so. You got played both ways, willingly!

Lots of others here clearly saw what you posted as a veiled threat - so it doesn't matter how you try delude yourself.

Yes, but you can't let go can you?

You big DDS up too much Kanelli. I don't hate him, hate takes effort and I have none to give in that department.
You mention my tenant (DubaiDog) passing information but now say you aren't accusing him. Make your mind up girl!
Yes it is an interesting question about who gave me the link to expat.com and that's for me to know and you to find out. One's things for sure, you won't get it from me

As for getting played, well, as I've said in the past, and no doubt will again, if you insist on bringing it up, I enjoyed every minute of it and the subsequent weeks ban spent watching you getting your backside kicked in fight club! Ah...those were the days

Ah ! The good old days are back. I can see why DJ brought up the subject but K there is no need to go over it all over again. Everybody saw for what it was and the moderators discussed it among themselves, majority decided to put a lifetime ban unfortunately only one had the authority. Thats still the majority vote on this forum as demostrated by the recent poll. We all know what BM really is, a harmless backpeddling lying windbag, all bark and no bite. Enjoy her presence here for the sheer comedic value she brings by her chronic writhing and foot in mouth diesease.

P.S : Not trying to be pedantic here, but one really can't access FC unless your logged in and the admin have granted you access to it.

P.P.S : K, remember I already told you who it was.

desertdudeshj wrote:Ah ! The good old days are back. I can see why DJ brought up the subject but K there is no need to go over it all over again. Everybody saw for what it was and the moderators discussed it among themselves, majority decided to put a lifetime ban unfortunately only one had the authority. Thats still the majority vote on this forum as demostrated by the recent poll. We all know what BM really is, a harmless backpeddling lying windbag, all bark and no bite. Enjoy her presence here for the sheer comedic value she brings by her chronic writhing and foot in mouth diesease.

P.S : Not trying to be pedantic here, but one really can't access FC unless your logged in and the admin have granted you access to it.

P.P.S : K, remember I already told you who it was.

Yeah, munchkin, just like that famous poll that Mel started about you being a mod in general. That was great comic value too Just remind me how many votes were cast. Just remind me how many multiple log ins you have? That's a bit sad you know, voting for yourself and that At least I voted to ban me LOOOOL

Yes the good old days when S&O could bring you to your knees with a strike of his keyboard! Yes, Sage no. Sage, what ever you say Sage! What a pathetic specimen you were I remember it well. Old DesertDogBreath as you were refered to in those days. ooops, you may not have known that!

PS. I have friends who logged me in to read the banter Yes, that's right munchkin, friends as in plural!

PPS. Have you been PMing the Reverend Mother again? And as they say in the movies, you know nuttin

Keep postin! I know I will

Ah ! I see boozed up BuM is back.

desertdudeshj wrote:Ah ! I see boozed up BuM is back.

How very original munchkin! Well done!

Not had a drop yet tho' just taken a break from work to check you out. You're not looking too hot munchkin, I'll return later with my beer googles on

desertdudeshj wrote:Ah ! The good old days are back. I can see why DJ brought up the subject but K there is no need to go over it all over again. Everybody saw for what it was and the moderators discussed it among themselves, majority decided to put a lifetime ban unfortunately only one had the authority. Thats still the majority vote on this forum as demostrated by the recent poll. We all know what BM really is, a harmless backpeddling lying windbag, all bark and no bite. Enjoy her presence here for the sheer comedic value she brings by her chronic writhing and foot in mouth diesease.

P.S : Not trying to be pedantic here, but one really can't access FC unless your logged in and the admin have granted you access to it.

P.P.S : K, remember I already told you who it was.

Sorry, I only brought it up again when I saw BM's version where she lied about how things went down.

You are right DDS, the majority of the mods wanted a lifetime ban, a recent poll reveals a majority of forum members who voted want BM banned. Her conduct speaks for itself.

Well VK I don’t usually entertain my patients on their requests but for you I am going to make an exception. I will stay away from the cut and paste theme on this reply which you so you adamantly feel doesn’t constitute a fair response and which clearly irritates your preferred style of literary combat.

Now before I start addressing your specific points, which having glanced over your response seems to focus on the word “whoosh”, workshops and your ability to google CBT, I would just like to say this.

I feel that I am partly responsible, as your physician, for the relapse that you have clearly suffered. It saddens me that after you made so much progress in the last 48 hours, you have reverted back to becoming a total c0ck in such a short period of time. I suppose it was expected and inevitable for you to reject your therapy and your new toilet cleaning life for that mirage that you call an existence. However I still hold out hope for you and I just want you to know that I am not giving up on you VK. Do you hear me VK? I won’t give up on you and I will do everything in my power to make sure you get back on your knees and start putting shines to porcelains everywhere.

Anyway moving on to this “whoosh” sound. In fairness at first read I thought you were referring to the sound of a flush but I can see now that it’s a figurative sound which you are using to refer to my lack of knowledge on a variety of areas but namely my creative ability. You then go on to compliment yourself for being able to retain information and as you put it “develop an idea and put it down in paper in one go”. There is also a mention of a glass ceiling along the way and how it has suppressed my progression due to my parrot style education. Now I don’t really know how I can respond to such a fierce attack of words but let me nevertheless try.

In as far as your criticism of my creative ability is concerned I think it stems from your distaste for as you put it my cut and paste responses. I would just like to remind you that this option is available when you post a reply and is in fact used by many DF’ers every day. It is also something which you can employ at any point in time if you find that it is providing me with an unfair disadvantage in our little spat of words. Regardless of its use I simply don’t see how the cut and paste tool can be pointed to as a determinant on the level of one’s creativity. I would point out that the fairy god mother, doctor DJ, your entire therapy session and much more was conceived and initiated on a cut and paste response and provided a great storyline to your disposition and our war of words. The world of VK according to DJ is I believe particularly creative when measured against the usual posts we see in DF.

Now in terms of this glass ceiling, your suggestion is that I am struggling with progression issues at a professional level because of “parrot” fashion type learning in my education. That’s a fairly brave assumption on your part VK as you (a) don’t know if I work (b) what I do or (c) how I was educated. It is also a particularly surprising revelation from someone that was humiliated by a bunch of pathetically stupid arabs (your words/connotation I believe not mine), stripped of his reputation, charged with being complicit to wrongdoing and was cleaning toilets as recently as yesterday. If there is a glass ceiling in my life VK its been put there by myself to gaze at the stars rather than painted walls. If there is a glass ceiling in your life VK than I would suggest that its there so people can keep a closer eye on you this time around.

Now lets me see what’s left on your response to deal with it. Oh yes CBT, you have kindly provided me with a link and you are true to your word because when I click it I go straight to Wikipedia. Is there another point here?

You go on to making some reference to a workshop approach and how that has “blinded” me to what is really true and how everything is not as it appears to be – this is followed by the flush sound. Are you purposely trying to be cryptic because I am finding it difficult to see what your point here is meant to be. Do you mean that you were not at fault at DW? That your bean counting was fair and honest? Maybe you want to rewrite some of this – try to compose your thoughts, develop the idea you actually you want to express and then put in down in paper (one go or even two is fine) and this time make it a little more straightforward.

Your last point is also cryptic. You suggest that I spoke of work ethic in a derogatory manner. What made you feel this was the case? As my only reference to work ethic was toilet cleaning I can presume this is where you are coming from but as I recall I was impressed with your decision to cut your last post short to go and clean up the sh1t. I again have no idea what point you are trying to make here.

I think amongst all of these posts VK and possibly due to your failed rehabilitation you have lost sight of what the issue is, and what our disagreement was to begin with, so let me remind you. This all started VK when you decided to poke your nose where it didn’t belong -- namely to protect poor little BM from my attention. Now everyone apart from you it seems knows that BM does not need any protection from anyone. She is famous on DF for starting more conflicts and wars than anyone else and has taken an infinite level of abuse from, and given it to an immeasurable number of sources as a consequence. Basically she’s a big girl and can take care of herself. DF is a place full of thorns and everyone that participates knows that there are confrontations and insults at every turn.

This original spat then led on to me pointing out that you have a superiority complex VK which causes you to behave arrogantly for no good reason and go around correcting people’s English, pointing them to Wikipedia, believing that you are eternally correct in your judgement and speaking as an authority on every subject and matter. All of this designed so that you come across as being particularly intelligent when in reality that couldn’t be further from the truth. These are not and should not be the actions of someone that has been outsmarted by nitwits and humbled so enormously in their life as you have. I wish you well VK, I truly do, but I think you need to adjust your attitude and outlook considerably unless you want to fall foul of people like me that can’t stomach your pretentious ramblings. I feel the advice and therapy that I have offered you has if nothing else reduced the arrogance of your tone somewhat and now I can at least read your posts without feeling the need to kick you in the face. I think I will leave it here for today, now go forth and try and stop being a total d1ckhead for a change.

Love DJ

This all started VK when you decided to poke your nose where it didn’t belong -- namely to protect poor little BM from my attention. Now everyone apart from you it seems knows that BM does not need any protection from anyone. She is famous on DF for starting more conflicts and wars than anyone else and has taken an infinite level of abuse from, and given it to an immeasurable number of sources as a consequence. Basically she’s a big girl and can take care of herself. DF is a place full of thorns and everyone that participates knows that there are confrontations and insults at every turn.

I'll quote that bit as the rest is just a lot of rambling as far as I can see.

You sure seem to think you know a lot from one so new. How long has it taken you re read through all of my posts on DF?

You seem to over look the fact that you have taken it upon yourself to post my name over this forum in defence of my saying Sir Shafique was a bit of a chubber.

Isn't that classed as poking your nose in?

I'm not expecting you to address this question as you seem to be cast in the same mould as him, as in you ignore things you can't answer.

-- Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:58 am --

kanelli wrote:Sorry, I only brought it up again when I saw BM's version where she lied about how things went down.

You are right DDS, the majority of the mods wanted a lifetime ban, a recent poll reveals a majority of forum members who voted want BM banned. Her conduct speaks for itself.

Dear God give me strength. Am I the only one who is bored with this now or what?

As far as I can see Kanelli, my version of events is the correct one. If you can point me in the direction of where I lied I would appreciate it. I think you might find that you just perceive me as a threat, but that's always been your problem.

I have never called for anyone to be banned. I'm not so petty and vindictive to want anyone removed.
Nobody bothers me that much.

And I haven't pmed anyone to complain about anyone either, but that's just me.

Bethsmum wrote:I'm not so petty and vindictive to want anyone removed.
Nobody bothers me that much.

Look at the abusive posts you have made to people... somehow I think you've been bothered! Sure, you aren't petty and vindictive enough to ask people to be removed from the forum, but you are petty and vindictive enough to tell someone they perv on their own (hairy) daughter and should marry her off under-age to another Muslim forumer for a few goats, and of course are petty and vindictive enough to threaten someone's off-forum life. You are the real Mother Superior BM!

Arniegang posted your JBR forum stuff first, so you lied about DDS trawling the internet to root you out. You lied that what DDS posted and what you did was on the same level of severity and consequence. You lied that you weren't making a veiled threat or you simply wouldn't have mentioned your police friend at all.

I really can't add much more, and even I'm tired of repeating it, so I won't any longer. People can judge for themselves after reading your posts BM.

but you are petty and vindictive enough to tell someone they perv on their own (hairy) daughter and should marry her off under-age to another Muslim forumer for a few goats,

In reply to Shafique making 'light hearted' fun of my daughter , who has brain damage after a life threatening illness, on more than one occasion

so you lied about DDS trawling the internet to root you out

DDS had to go to another site to root out my posts. To me this is trawling the internet.

You lied that what DDS posted and what you did was on the same level of severity and consequence.

That is not a lie. That's my opinion.

You lied that you weren't making a veiled threat or you simply wouldn't have mentioned your police friend at all.

My police friend was mentioned in the topic where I was asking what would happen if someone was caught living together. He wasn't mentioned at all in the topic where I cross posted DDS posts from expat.com.
It is your opinion that it was a veiled threat. You have a problem, that's evident.

even I'm tired of repeating it, so I won't any longer.

Good. Do us all a favour.

desertdudeshj wrote:We all know what BM really is, a harmless backpeddling lying windbag, all bark and no bite. Enjoy her presence here for the sheer comedic value she brings by her chronic writhing and foot in mouth diesease.

I like BM. I don't agree with everything she writes, but she is one of the very few that makes me laugh. She has wit, thats for sure. She calls it as she sees it. WYSIWYG. She is the life of DF.