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Once again comparing the UAE and the UK, in this instance. As the Brits would say "chalk and cheese". If the UK (and the US and other countries suffering economically because of immigrants who migrate with every intention of living off the government), put strict limitations on immigration, there would be more tax money to go around to improving the country which would improve the quality of life of the taxpayers. Those that aren't immigrants should be given a broom and made to sweep streets, pick up garbage, clean public toilets to earn their dole money. But that would be too much to ask of them wouldn't it?

The UAE doesn't have immigration, nor taxation. Revenue is generated by the huge number of fees paid by expats to work, live and set up businesses, pay higher utilities than locals. Salik is a source of revenue. Parking meters are a source of revenue. Yeah, the Royal families do set up businesses, then hire expats to run them, and still haven't learned that by replacing expats with locals companies were/are destined to fail. The only government business that generates jobs for locals is the government municipalities. Do you believe that the Royal families don't receive a return on the money they invested in these companies????

No granted they do not stand on the balcony waving, but I think that our Royal family set us apart from the rest of the World and although there are some awful waste of money hangers on I would rather have the Queen than not and certainly would not wish death upon her. Like it or not alot of tourists come because of our Royal Family.

And yes we certainly should not have let in all the immigrants into our country and we are seeing the results now. And no I do not blame the immigrants I blame the government. We should stop allowing people in now and certainly stop doling out money to other countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh.

You seem to have omitted the roaring success that was Dubai World - oh sorry I forgot as soon as they came clean about the level of Western Debt it suddenly became a privately run company. The difference being we do not live in a dictatorship you do.

And certainly if you have no appreciation of culture, history etc you would be better off sitting in the sand pit sweating your a*** off.

"Those that aren't immigrants should be given a broom and made to sweep streets, pick up garbage, clean public toilets to earn their dole money"..... Hmmmmmm I would love to see a native brit do this kind of a job!! Especially clean public toilets!!! But hey lets face it they wont thats why the government relies on immigrants because they are cheap its something to do with skin colour

Just like in UAE or anywhere else in the world, you can hire a manager who is white he will demand from you $20,000.00. Than theres this funny fellow from India and he demands $10,000.00... So if you are running a company who would you hire

rudeboy wrote:"Those that aren't immigrants should be given a broom and made to sweep streets, pick up garbage, clean public toilets to earn their dole money"..... Hmmmmmm I would love to see a native brit do this kind of a job!! Especially clean public toilets!!! But hey lets face it they wont thats why the government relies on immigrants because they are cheap its something to do with skin colour

Just like in UAE or anywhere else in the world, you can hire a manager who is white he will demand from you $20,000.00. Than theres this funny fellow from India and he demands $10,000.00... So if you are running a company who would you hire

Immigrant or not, on the dole, work. No work, no money.

It's wrong to put a value on someone's skin color, but it seems to be the way things work here RB. Isn't that one of the things you love about the UAE?? In the UK it would be called discrimination.

patience wrote:No granted they do not stand on the balcony waving, but I think that our Royal family set us apart from the rest of the World and although there are some awful waste of money hangers on I would rather have the Queen than not and certainly would not wish death upon her. Like it or not alot of tourists come because of our Royal Family.

And yes we certainly should not have let in all the immigrants into our country and we are seeing the results now. And no I do not blame the immigrants I blame the government. We should stop allowing people in now and certainly stop doling out money to other countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh.

You seem to have omitted the roaring success that was Dubai World - oh sorry I forgot as soon as they came clean about the level of Western Debt it suddenly became a privately run company. The difference being we do not live in a dictatorship you do.

And certainly if you have no appreciation of culture, history etc you would be better off sitting in the sand pit sweating your a*** off.

err most people i know who have visited england have not done so because of the royal family! Nope they have done its because of museums, castles, landscape, shopping! Royal family is not there....

You have said it yourself most of them are "waste of money hangers" how many is "most"? 10? 20? 50? 100?

lol yeh you shouldnt be giving out money when you dont have it in the first place! thats common sense something which the british government has lacked over the last few years

Dubai World included many officals who were involved in kickbacks which is common in dubai and unfortunately we dont have name and disgrace them option!! Oh by the way there is a local kickback mastero here called Herbie anyways DW created jobs, prince charles doesnt unless you get to clean his horses for which you get paid by the government, who get the money from the tax payers

errr to me it doesnt matter if i am ruled by a dictator, by a king or by a parliament. As long as i can give my family food, provide them shelter and security I am happy!!! Last i checked all these were provided unfortunately thats something that hasnt been provided by "democratic" systems across the world including USA and UK!!

History is a funny word!! All i know is that the Great British Empire which once had the strongest navy, ruled over the world and had colonies across the globe is now a small island and its in a mess Should i talk about how the BRitish killed innocent people in India? Should i go on about how the British made some mess in Palestine which still exists today!!!

-- Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:27 pm --

Bora Bora wrote:

rudeboy wrote:"Those that aren't immigrants should be given a broom and made to sweep streets, pick up garbage, clean public toilets to earn their dole money"..... Hmmmmmm I would love to see a native brit do this kind of a job!! Especially clean public toilets!!! But hey lets face it they wont thats why the government relies on immigrants because they are cheap its something to do with skin colour

Just like in UAE or anywhere else in the world, you can hire a manager who is white he will demand from you $20,000.00. Than theres this funny fellow from India and he demands $10,000.00... So if you are running a company who would you hire

Immigrant or not, on the dole, work. No work, no money.

It's wrong to put a value on someone's skin color, but it seems to be the way things work here RB. Isn't that one of the things you love about the UAE?? In the UK it would be called discrimination.

discrimination happens everywhere including UK and UAE! But hey maybe thats one of the reason why big companies eventually go bankrupt But I am sure discrimination happens alot in UK/USA

this just in: the Muslim world questions the safety of UK's nuclear and military assets.

a joint peace keeping force including army units from Pakistan, Turkey, Syria and Iran to be sent to the UK for maintaining order.

also, the queen(aka inbred German hooker), has shit her royal panties.

Well why don't you just sod off back from whence you came rudeboy? I can't imagine you or yours would be missed.
That's what amuses me about foreigners. They come to your country, get their feet under the table and then start disrespecting the place and the people.

Don't tell me! You have a British passport.

-- Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:35 pm --

errtime wrote:this just in: the Muslim world questions the safety of UK's nuclear and military assets.

a joint peace keeping force including army units from Pakistan, Turkey, Syria and Iran to be sent to the UK for maintaining order.

also, the queen(aka inbred German hooker), has tasty her royal panties.

You may like to check your posts before you make them. When you use certain words, they are changed automatically and it makes you look a bit of a T>W>A>T

errtime wrote:this just in: the Muslim world questions the safety of UK's nuclear and military assets.

a joint peace keeping force including army units from Pakistan, Turkey, Syria and Iran to be sent to the UK for maintaining order.

also, the queen(aka inbred German hooker), has tasty her royal panties.

nice one!

“We will avenge our brothers. This is a tight community, and someone in their group will brag about how they attacked the Muslims,” said Waseem Hussain, 24, who joined the defense of the shops.

What a bunch of nutjobs.

But by all means, go and kill each other off. You'd be doing the UK a great service.

rudeboy wrote::D

nice one!

You're special rudeboy. Make sure you claim all the benefits to which you are entitled.

Dubai World included many officals who were involved in kickbacks which is common in dubai and unfortunately we dont have name and disgrace them option!!

Do you believe everything you read and hear? Big omissions in print.

errr to me it doesnt matter if i am ruled by a dictator, by a king or by a parliament. As long as i can give my family food, provide them shelter and security I am happy!!! Last i checked all these were provided

Provided by who? Surely not the government???

History is a funny word!! All i know is that the Great British Empire which once had the strongest navy, ruled over the world and had colonies across the globe is now a small island and its in a mess Should i talk about how the BRitish killed innocent people in India? Should i go on about how the British made some mess in Palestine which still exists today!!!

Errrr, we are talking about now, not then.

discrimination happens everywhere including UK and UAE! But hey maybe thats one of the reason why big companies eventually go bankrupt But I am sure discrimination happens alot in UK/USA

Big companies eventually go bankrupty because of discrimination? Are you saying that if the companies in Dubai that have defaulted or shut down - there is no such thing as bankruptcy in Dubai, if they didn't hire white people and hired Indians, it would never have happened???

There will always be discrimination in the world. The difference is that is some countries it's blatant and widely practiced with no protection. In the UK and US, if discrimination can proven, there is a recourse and a process, as long as it can be proven. Employment discrimination is taken very seriously in the US.

Sometime ago I had a discussion with an HR manager about the discrimination in Dubai, especially with equal skills/education/qualification and nationality, and he explained to me that "white" people are offered more because they were accustomed to a higher standard of living. How's that for justification??? That's right up there when people say that Pakistanis, Indians, Sri Lankens who are laborers are still better off in Dubai than they would be at home. Right, leave their families, live in camps, have no life at all, get paid crap for 12 hour days, 6 days a week, etc., etc. - and they're better off? I don't think so. Here's the funny thing, I've heard that from mostly Indians and Pakistanis (who are quite comfortable or hold a nice position).

event horizon wrote:What a bunch of nutjobs.

But by all means, go and kill each other off. You'd be doing the UK a great service.

I had to reread your post EH. For a fleeting moment I thought you called them a bunch of knobs
I must be feeling a bit dyslexic.

Side note: Syrian ambassador is condemning the UK for their comments on the Syria uprising, saying pretty much what is going on in the UK is no worse than what is going on in Syria. PMSL!!!!

So Herve is responsible for the *****ing mess in DW. That is EXACTLY why you have to hire westerners - someone to blame when you lot of *****holes **** it all up.

I for one couldn't care less what colour you are, what religion you practise I just don't want to be told by a bunch of smelly pyjama wearing morons what to do in MY country - they can all sod off back to huddling round the rice pot in their own third world ****hole.

-- Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:36 pm --

You may hate the Brits but without us and the Americans you lot would still be killing each other and digging holes in the ground to get your oil out you sad little man.

^^^lollll. dude, ur names patience, and you dont have any. you need to relax. from where I see it, the UK looks worse than a 3rd world country at the moment, so take a breather. there's a bunch of brothas somewhere in somalia right now, sitting in front of a tv and sayin pffft, glad were not there.

hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

london bridge "is" falling down.....

patience wrote:So Herve is responsible for the *****ing mess in DW. That is EXACTLY why you have to hire westerners - someone to blame when you lot of *****holes **** it all up.

I for one couldn't care less what colour you are, what religion you practise I just don't want to be told by a bunch of smelly pyjama wearing morons what to do in MY country - they can all sod off back to huddling round the rice pot in their own third world ****hole.

-- Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:36 pm --

You may hate the Brits but without us and the Americans you lot would still be killing each other and digging holes in the ground to get your oil out you sad little man.

I don't think they found oil in Bangladesh.

-- Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:04 pm --

errtime wrote:^^^lollll. dude, ur names patience, and you dont have any. you need to relax. from where I see it, the UK looks worse than a 3rd world country at the moment, so take a breather. there's a bunch of brothas somewhere in somalia right now, sitting in front of a tv and sayin pffft, glad were not there.

hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

london bridge "is" falling down.....

Worse than a 3rd world country?? There's a village somewhere in one of those 3rd world countries that lost an idiot. Why don't you apply for the position? Clearly you've never been to (or allowed to enter?) a western country.

yeah, right.............rebels sitting in front of a TV adjusting the rabbit ears while eating their babies.

errtime wrote:there's a bunch of brothas somewhere in somalia right now, sitting in front of a tv and sayin pffft, glad were not there.

hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Sure there's a lot of Westerners feeling the same way.

errtime wrote:london bridge "is" falling down.....

Actually you are wrong.
The British Government has announced measures to help areas get back to normality and to help people who have been made homeless. It has also announced measures to enable Councils to fast track eviction notices for people who have been prosecuted for criminal damage.
So to all you Brit haters out there! We may not have any money but we can dig deep when needed.

Pickles announces multi-million pound support package for local firms and families to rebuild their communities
Published 11 August 2011

Residents and local firms affected by the riots are in line for financial support from central government, Communities Secretary Eric Pickles announced today as he outlined a package of measures that will help communities to get back on their feet.

The one-off measures are part of concerted, cross-Government action to help rebuild communities, open up shops and rebuild buildings which were damaged, make sure people who lost their homes are re-housed, and to help councils get their areas back to normal as quickly as possible.

Mr Pickles also sent a clear message that the Government stands fully behind councils seeking to evict tenants that are found to have taken part in the looting and rioting across the country over the last few days - this will send a strong message that crime does not pay.

The package of support being announced today includes:

A £10m recovery fund to help councils with the immediate costs of making their areas safe, clear and clean again. This fund can be used, for example, to clear debris left strewn in streets and make immediate repairs to pavements and roads. This Recovery scheme can also be used to support councils who use their powers to offer council tax discounts or council tax relief to those whose homes have been damaged but are still habitable.
A £20m High Street Support Scheme - funded jointly by the Departments for Communities and Local Government, and Business Innovation and Skills, which will be made available immediately, for the streets and areas where businesses were affected by the rioting. The money is intended to finance those measures that will get business trading again and meet short term costs. Councils will distribute the money and could use it to reduce business rates, finance building repairs and encourage customers back to the affected areas.
In addition, seriously damaged homes and business properties will be taken off the respective valuation lists, and Mr Pickles has strongly encouraged the Valuation Office Agency and local authorities to do so as promptly as possible. This removes any liability for council tax or business rates.
Councils have the power to offer rate relief for local firms, but must pay a quarter of the cost; central government automatically pays for three quarters of the cost. The High Street Support Scheme will help reimburse councils for this cost, to facilitate immediate and real financial help to be given to small and medium firms to rebuild their local businesses. Business rates are typically the third biggest outgoing for firms after rent and staff.
Re-housing funding to meet the immediate costs of emergency accommodation for families who have been made homeless by the disturbances. As these are exceptional circumstances, Mr Pickles has confirmed that his Department would meet these costs under established homelessness funding processes.
Mr Pickles said:

"Our priority is to get local communities back on their feet, get businesses up and running again and make sure nobody is left without a roof over their head. We will stand side by side with communities as they rebuild their lives.

"We are making immediate financial support available to those that need help and we will continue to work closely with councils who have already responded to this violence with calm, resolve and professionalism.

"It is not just for the state to support local firms affected by these criminal actions. I encourage every local resident to make an effort to shop locally in this and coming weeks and support the local high streets which are the lifeblood of our communities."

In a written statement to Parliament, Mr Pickles also praised the efforts of Fire and Rescue Services who had been working hard to contain fires caused by those intent on destruction. Fire-fighters braved threats, and in some cases injury, in order to safeguard people and property across the country.

The Government has been absolutely clear that those who have committed criminal acts will be found and punished. Mr Pickles reinforced this stance today by announcing that councils will have the Government's full backing in holding any rioters living in social housing to account.

The Communities Secretary pledged the Government will support councils seeking to evict tenants involved in unrest, both in their communities and further afield, and will be urgently looking at all options to strengthen the powers councils have to take action in response to the behaviour of their tenants.

Housing Minister Grant Shapps said:

"The people who rioted and looted over the past few days need to know that there are consequences to their actions. So they should wake up and listen to this clear message: if you live in a social home and you are caught rioting, your one night of madness could have disastrous consequences for the rest of your lives."
Councils and housing associations already have powers to evict social tenants, if they are involved in anti-social behaviour or criminal activity. I urge them to consider using those powers. I am proposing to strengthen the powers so that tenants can be evicted for serious anti-social behaviour or criminal activity beyond their local neighbourhood. We've also recently announced that landlords, for the first time, will be able to use a fast-track eviction process where there's a previous conviction for a serious offence. So rioters beware - our country will be restored, but the stain on your record will remain, and could count against you in years to come."

Two thumbs up!!!! Maybe those getting evicted will be pi$$ed off enough and take the first boat out!!!!

"We'll hunt down these black men, cut off their heads and feed them to our dogs," said Amir Hawid, 20, who lives just a hundred yards from the killing scene and heard the screams of the crowd at the moment of impact.

Looks like the hit-and-run was in retaliation for a previous incident where Muslim men raped a Jamaican girl:

The passions echo streetfights from previous years, such as in 2005, when a neighboring Birmingham district suffered two nights of violence between Caribbean and Asian gangs over unsubstantiated rumors that a gang of Pakistani men had raped a 14-year-old Jamaican girl. Two men were stabbed to death, firefighters faced machete-wielding mobs, and Muslim graves were desecrated during those clashes. The west side also suffered riots in 1981, 1985 and 1991 fueled by minority hatred of white police and black resentment of the Asians' dominant position as shopkeepers.

LoL.

It also looks like the three 'Asians' were part of a larger crowd throwing stones (what else is new) at cars carrying blacks. This contradicts other reports that the Asians were minding their own business when they were killed out of the blue.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/ ... 1140.shtml

EH, I think you may be flogging a dead horse here. You see I think Shafique has done a runner. He was all for supporting the black feral youths when they were rioting but as soon as they mowed down a few Muslims he was caught between a rock and a hard place. You can't be supporting each side so he's gone for the Muslims.
He's flogged Norway to death, tried in vain to get people to blame Islam for the riots so I predict he will be back to searching Haartz.com for future material to slag off the Israelis.

Anyways I see that Maylayan youth on TV tonight all smiles! He thinks Britain is great. Bless him, he seems a simple lad. I did like the flip flop look when he was riding his bike through the East End of London.
We've started a fund for him to replace his stolen sandwiches.

Bethsmum wrote:

xibit wrote:its a war out on the streets of London after Libya, Egypt the jobless youth have come out in the uk, demanding for rights, jobs and impartiality.

They are stripping the white ppl of there clothes now, stuff like that used to happen only in Africa , it’s about time the brit regime/parliament realize their mistakes and deal the situation with some sense rather than using force and making the situation worse.

this was coming sooner or later. This is payback for what the brits have done to Africa over the centuries and now the tables have turned.

Demanding their rights? There's just been a big ship in and dropped thousands of tons of coal in Newcastle. If I'd been Primeminister that ship would have left the shores of Britain with thousands of your mates and dropped them either
a) Where they came from
or
b) in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

its exactly bcoz of retards, with a sick demented mentality like u these riots started in the first place

Bethsmum wrote:EH, I think you may be flogging a dead horse here. You see I think Shafique has done a runner. He was all for supporting the black feral youths when they were rioting but as soon as they mowed down a few Muslims he was caught between a rock and a hard place. You can't be supporting each side so he's gone for the Muslims.
He's flogged Norway to death, tried in vain to get people to blame Islam for the riots so I predict he will be back to searching Haartz.com for future material to slag off the Israelis.

Anyways I see that Maylayan youth on TV tonight all smiles! He thinks Britain is great. Bless him, he seems a simple lad. I did like the flip flop look when he was riding his bike through the East End of London.
We've started a fund for him to replace his stolen sandwiches.

I think the person who took his sandwich was looking after the young student during Ramadan. Wouldn't want the man to get tempted and break his fast before sunset.

I also agree with you the reaction to the riots since the deaths of the three Asian militiamen is quite ironic. I just wonder why the usual suspects aren't making excuses for the action of the driver who ran them over. No doubt Asian racism towards blacks was a contributing factor in this tragic event. We should remember that the driver was also a victim in his own way.

-- Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:08 pm --

xibit wrote:

Bethsmum wrote:Demanding their rights? There's just been a big ship in and dropped thousands of tons of coal in Newcastle. If I'd been Primeminister that ship would have left the shores of Britain with thousands of your mates and dropped them either
a) Where they came from
or
b) in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

its exactly bcoz of retards, with a sick demented mentality like u these riots started in the first place

Actually, there would be no riots if there were more people who took a zero tolerance policy toward thug culture.

These riots only started becos of white sick supremacists like the chauvinistic mofos behtsmum;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=biJgILxGK0o

the white reporter is clearly biased in the questions with the black community leader who supports these riots, its just a matter of time before the brit regime realize that they have more home grown problems than trying to meddle their pompous nose in world affairs.

How did Blacks and Asians make it to Britain if there are so many White supremacists?

As pointed out, ad nauseum, not all Brits are racist.

Cheers,
Shafique

No, but we are sick of giving immigrants a leg up for them to turn round and bad mouth us and cause havoc on our streets.

I see you haven't mentioned the death, yesterday, Shafique, of a 68 year old white man, who when he attempted up put a fire out during the riots, was knocked down and kicked in the head by a big black man. The man went into a coma and never recovered.

Shame on you lot.

-- Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:06 pm --

xibit wrote:These riots only started becos of white sick supremacists like the chauvinistic mofos behtsmum;

Actually it started because young black people think they should have it all without having to work for it.
There was no looting of food shops but, JB Sports, Currys and various other electrical retailers, oh and Poundland. I think the word is greed.
Well at least the blacks all now have the latest KSwiss trainers and are tuning into MTV on HI Definition TV's. That should keep them quiet for the next couple of months till they get bored again.




Fancy some new trainers, init?

A true and noble Brit speaks:




And interestingly, on Dateline London on the BBC they made the point that those arrested for the rioting were NOT from one racial group or even age group - and indeed not all were of the lower classes either.

The facts are there for those willing to look beyond their prejudices.

Cheers,
Shafique

Well, the chickens in Birmingham came home to roost.

I guess it's only natural for the victims of stone throwers to want to run down their persecutors.

Here's Tariq explaining what happened.



Cheers,
Shafique