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Bethsmum wrote:Why don't Muslims question anything? They seem to believe everything they are drip fed even if it doesn't stand up.

Berrin wrote:absolutely, and many of them aren't especially gifted either...Just pure clean will and intention to memorize it do the trick for everyone and most of them memorize it spotless within 5 years at most, compare that with 23 years of deliverance to the prophet...People also forget that prophets are chosen and favorite servants(souls) of Allah before even they arrived to the world so they must have naturally/physically/characteristicly/mentally and intellectualy been prepared to receive and ricite verses and guide whichever tribes/people they were sent for...

Aisha was the daughter of Muhammad's close friend Abu Bakr. She was initially betrothed to Jubayr ibn Mut'im, a Muslim whose father, though pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. When Khawlah bint Hakim suggested that Muhammad marry Aisha after the death of Muhammad's first wife (Khadijah), the previous agreement regarding marriage of Aisha with ibn Mut'im was put aside by common consent.[10] Aisha was six years old when betrothed to Muhammad.[10][14][15] She stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine or ten, when the marriage was consummated in Medina.[15][16][17][18] with the single exception of al-Tabari, who records that she was ten.[14] Some modern Islamic writers have disagreed with these sources, such as Ahmadiyya leader Maulana Muhammad Ali who wrote in the first half of the 20th century that "there is not the least doubt that Aisha was at least nine or ten years of age at the time of betrothal, and fourteen or fifteen years at the time of marriage.[19][20] Both Aisha and Sawda, his two wives, were given apartments adjoined to the Al-Masjid al-Nabawi mosque.[21]

Berrin wrote:absolutely, and many of them aren't especially gifted either...Just pure clean will and intention to memorize it do the trick for everyone and most of them memorize it spotless within 5 years at most, compare that with 23 years of deliverance to the prophet...People also forget that prophets are chosen and favorite servants(souls) of Allah before even they arrived to the world so they must have naturally/physically/characteristicly/mentally and intellectualy been prepared to receive and ricite verses and guide whichever tribes/people they were sent for...

Berrin wrote:absolutely, and many of them aren't especially gifted either...Just pure clean will and intention to memorize it do the trick for everyone and most of them memorize it spotless within 5 years at most, compare that with 23 years of deliverance to the prophet...

Procedure: A lab experiment was conducted. Participants had to recall trigrams (three letters, eg. TGH). To prevent rehersal participants were asked to count backwards in threes from a specified number. This is known as the brown peterson technique.

Participants were asked to recall the trigram after intervals of either 3, 6, 9, 12, 15 or 18 seconds.

Findings: The longer the interval delay the less trigrams were recalled. Participants were able to recall 80% of trigrams after a 3 seconds delay. However, after 18 seconds less than 10% of trigrams were recalled correctly.

Conclusion: Short-term memory has a limited duraction when rehersal is prevented. It is thought that this information is lost from short-term memory from trace decay. The results of the study also show the short-term memory is different from long-term memory in terms of duration. Thus supporting the multi-store model of memory.

Criticisms: This experiment has low ecological validity as people do not try to recall trigrams in real life.

Great thread eh

With its hundred thousand slokas, the Mahabharata is fifteen times the length of the Bible. My friend had asked the bard how he could possibly remember it all. The minstrel replied that, in his mind, each stanza was written on a pebble. The pile of pebbles lay before him always; all he had to do was remember the order in which they were arranged and to ‘read’ from one pebble after another.
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Given all this, it seemed extraordinary to find in modern Rajasthan performers who were still the guardians of an entire oral culture. Apart from anything else, I longed to know how the bhopas, who were invariably simple villagers, shepherds, cowherds and so on, often illiterate, could remember such colossal quantities of verse....
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I asked whether the bhopas were illiterate. Milman Parry had found in Yugoslavia that this was the one essential condition for preserving an oral epic. It was the ability of the bard to read, rather than changes in the tastes of his audience, that sounded the death knell for the oral tradition. Just as the blind can develop a heightened sense of hearing, smell and touch to compensate for their loss of vision, so it seems that the illiterate have a capacity to remember in a way that the literate simply do not. It was not lack of interest, but literacy itself, that was killing the oral epic.

This had also been the conclusion of the great Indian folklorist Komal Kothari. In the 1950s, Kothari came up with the idea of sending one of his principal sources, a singer from the Langa caste named Lakha, to adult education classes. The idea was that he would learn to read and write, thus making it easier to collect the many songs he had preserved. But soon Kothari noticed that Lakha needed to consult his diary before he began to sing, while the rest of the Langa singers were able to remember hundreds of songs – an ability that Lakha had somehow begun to lose as he slowly learned to write.

event horizon wrote:It's amazing how someone could misunderstand the actual question so profoundly.

I suppose it is an admission over the unlikeliness for anyone short of having a photographic memory to be able to do what Muhammad is alleged to have accomplished.

Since the prophet was illiterate we can only estimate that angel gabriel's method was focusing on the phonetic memory as the arabic language was his only strength to work on..

Mahmoud04 wrote:so, Did Moses speak with GOD, split the sea, convert a stick to a snake, etc...?
were Jesus able to do all this http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/miracles.htm ?
Did Ibrahim survive from the fire?
Did Soliman speake the animals language?
Did Younis stay in the stomach of the whale?
Did Marry born Jesus without being touched?

coz all researches done in the past 798403 years proved that can't happen

Eidetic or photographic memory is popularly defined as the ability to recall images, sounds, or objects in memory with extreme precision and in abundant volume. The word eidetic (pronounced /aɪˈdɛtɨk/) means related to extraordinarily detailed and vivid recall of visual images, and comes from the Greek word εἶδος (eidos), which is directly translatable to "seen" (as a past participle of "see").[1]