White Brits, Before Long, A Minority In The UK!!!

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Re: White Brits, Before Long, a Minority in the UK!!! Nov 19, 2010
Hi DK welcome back! talking about the Welsh...

An English visitor to a small Welsh village was approached by one of the deacons of the local chapel who asked him whether he would like to attend their chapel on the following Sunday.
"Wouldn't that be a little pointless?" replied the Englishman. "After all, your services are held in Welsh and I don't understand the language."
"Ah yes," said the deacon, "but the collection is in English." :lol:

Some sheep farmers in mid-Wales have formed a society of teetotalers.
There is a clause in the rules that permits the use of alcohol at sheep-dipping time. :)

One member keeps a sheep at home which he dips every day. :shock:

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Dillon wrote:Well I see you’re still bothered by it Shafique, The OP is still White British v Immigrants, not Non-White or General population, Immigrants, I wonder is it this that really irks you and the reason you keep trying to change it?

Mine hasn’t changed, and it’s not likely to, it’s still there if you’d like another go at it?

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Yep, happy to go another round. ;)

Ok - we're reading the Sun report differently - it was saying that 'White British' people would be in a minority in 2066 if the professor's assumptions held.

I couldn't see in the report where he said the non 'White British' would not not be British who were non-White or would be descendants of white immigrants. It did not say 'British citizens' or 'British Born' - but 'White British'. A child of a Polish immigrant, born and raised in Britain, I would contend would be classed as a 'White British' person in 56 years time.

In fact the article contrasts the situation with the US - where it makes a distinction between White Americans and others, and excludes Hispanics in the count of White Americans. It is about race.

But be that as it may - let's agree the group will include "white immigrants, non-white immigrants or non-white Britons", I still make my point that the growing feral underclass of white British population is the greater threat to Britishness.

Over 56 years the non 'white British' population will be even more integrated than they are now - the Michael Portillos, Dianne Abbots etc will be as British as each other, even though only one of them will be termed 'White British'. I would consider Michael Portillo to be a typically 'white British' person even though he is the son of an immigrant.

At the end of the day, I'm not the one that used the term 'White British' first in this thread. ;)

But I do blame the welsh as well. :mrgreen:

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Re: White Brits, Before Long, a Minority in the UK!!! Nov 19, 2010
Shaf, go back and read my earlier posts and stop trying to disguise the issue, it REALLY isn't working!
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I'm really not disguising the issue - I do believe I'm addressing the point made in the OP about White Britons and White Americans becoming minorities in the UK and US - with it occurring sooner there than here.

Over there, all the Whites are immigrants. I think that fact strengthens my reading of what he meant by 'White British' and therefore the non-'White British'.


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-- Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:18 pm --

This is what the Sun says the Prof said:

"Were the assumptions to hold, the 'white British' population of Britain would become the minority after about 2066. It's a milestone that would be passed much earlier in younger age-groups."

He added: "The US, by comparison, is now about 65 per cent white (non-Hispanic) and that group is projected to fall to 50 per cent by 2045."


Seems to be talking about race to me.

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shafique wrote:I'm really not disguising the issue
Cheers,
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Agreed you're failing miserably, read my earlier post!
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Ok - you can have the last word - I'll concede that you think you're right. ;)

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Dillon wrote:Come on Shaf, don't you think it's now time to come clean like your pal Benwj did, at least he had the maturity to admit to the racist statement


Shaf referred to a certain element of the community as feral underclass.
He also pointed out that they happen to be white.
You then jumped down his throat and accussed him of being racist.
I simply acknowledged that he did indeed refer to someone by way of the colour of their skin/race.
I happen to be white, but I recognised that he wasn't referring to all white people, or me (I am not feral underclass... by shaf's definition at least).
If you are feral underclass and were offended , then I can only suggest that you get up off your arse and get a job,
If you are not feral underclass, stop using the term racist against people who state facts.
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This isn’t about having the last word Shaf, it’s about accepting the responsibility for statements one makes on a public forum, what you said that I took exception to is well documented, it was an offensive and racist remark and no amount of camouflage you or your new found lapdog(s) wish to post over the statement will ever change my mind.
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Shaf maybe if you use bold words maybe then Dillon will get it, perhaps ?
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Dillon wrote:This isn’t about having the last word Shaf, it’s about accepting the responsibility for statements one makes on a public forum, what you said that I took exception to is well documented, it was an offensive and racist remark and no amount of camouflage you or your new found lapdog wish to post
over the statement will ever change my mind.


Bigot: "stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own".
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Yap yap, yap yap yap grrrrrrrrr yap yap!

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Re: White Brits, Before Long, a Minority in the UK!!! Nov 20, 2010
Best to ignore the troll.

Seriously, he's too dumb for conversation:

I don't think you can call someone like shafique an actual troll. Trolling is a deliberate attempt to stifle or disrupt discussion - kind of how Desert throws his fits in the Politics forum whenever someone posts a topic he doesn't like, that's trolling.

For shafique's part, and as someone who knows how shafique has behaved on the other forum with complaints coming from all the members who posted in the sub-forum against him, it's hard to believe that anyone could deliberately be that dumb.

To me, it seems like shafique's 'denseness' is definitely something that was ingrained in him from early on and that he has little control over now.

And really, it isn't just non-Muslims who have complained about his posting style. Anyone who disagrees with him notices that he's very far from rational or capable of understanding the position of his opponents, often deliberately taking their arguments out of context and saying, 'I'm glad you agree with me, blah blah blah'.

As I said before, I encourage anyone to challenge him on an issue in the politics forum just to witness first hand what a loon this guy is. I'm not trying to make excuses, but perhaps part of the problem is that shafique is a numbers person, and numbers people don't know how to communicate very well.

It was a mistake to make this person a mod. I would actually say that Desert has a slightly higher IQ than shafique, it's just that Desert is too mentally weak to deal with people on an online forum in a mature manner.

So really, we have two active mods that should never have been made mods. But at least you can only go up after hitting rock bottom.


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dubai-chat/the-mind-troll-t44069-15.html#p353508

As far as a history of posting racist remarks, you decide:

dubai-politics-talk/child-witches-denounced-african-pastors-t43911-15.html#p352619
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event horizon wrote:Best to ignore the troll.


Best advice yet, seems to be working very well with you in the politics forum.
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event horizon wrote:Best to ignore the troll.

Yap yap, yap yap yap grrrrrrrrr yap yap!

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benwj wrote:
event horizon wrote:Best to ignore the troll.

Yap yap, yap yap yap grrrrrrrrr yap yap!

:lol:


Young grasshopper, you may yet learn something one day if you ever decide to think for yourself.

You accused Dillon of playing the race card in this thread after he took issue with a silly remark another member made about Whites after Dillon said the member's comments were racist.

Indeed, you sided with the other member as just quoting the 'facts' when the member has quite an extensive history of playing the race card himself - often accusing other members whose views are not within the bounds of political correctness of being racists or 'Islamophobes'.

Now, if you scroll back up, you'll see that my second link is to a thread where our loon member tried using the race card, just as Jesse 'Hymietown' Jackson often does, against another member but ended up taking it on the chin after his own comments regarding whites were re-posted and he was forced to obfuscate and plead that he wasn't a racist because he has white friends (LoL!).

In reality, on this forum, if any one is a racist, it would be the member you're now high fiving. But hey, it wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that this member is also this forum's biggest hypocrite.
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Well you see British people aren't being asked what they want! It's all being decided by government. In recent years there has been a massive shift in large city demographics, as the white, middle class move out into the more rural areas or are leaving the country completely.

That's another shock thing, never mind the number of immigrants coming in, the sheer number of Brits leaving the country every year for pastures new is even higher.

Personally I think the UK should adopt Australian immigration values, you can come in if you have a skill that we need, you live by our way of life and contribute to our society, or you can go back to where you came from.
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Dubai Knight wrote:Personally, I blame the Welsh!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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and their sheep :D

we might as well blame the scots and their kilts while we at it :D

and how can we not blame the irish :D
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The Irish have potatoes.

The Scots make a fine dram.

I like single malt and chips!

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You know DK, I think you need a smacked bottom! You seem to be the biggest culprit for diverting threads these days.

BTW, I can never remember the name of that Welsh town, that unless you can say it, you're not allowed to live there.
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LOL yeah that's the one. They're very funny there.
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Anybody got any clues on how to actually pronouce that ? And that Icelandic volcano that recently went apeshit
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desertdudeshj wrote:Anybody got any clues on how to actually pronouce that ? And that Icelandic volcano that recently went apeshit


erm I could have a go, but there might be a lot of involuntary spitting involved lol
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Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

Lan-fair-powell-gwen-gill ?
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Hate to break it to you, but that's not the entire name! You obviously didn't click on the link. The full name is:

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

There is also a guide as to how to pronounce it, but it really doesn't help.
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Re: White Brits, Before Long, A Minority In The UK!!! Nov 20, 2010
Oh my, worse than I thought ! I think my tongue will be sore for a week if I even attempted that !

-- Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:36 pm --

* Cue DK for a variety of other reason why a tongue can get sore and none of them PG !
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Well LL in Welsh is sort of like TH, but it comes from rolling the tongue from the back. I can't actually write the sound you're supposed to make phonetically. F's are very often V's.
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Oh my ! that doesn't sound like fun at all !
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Re: White Brits, Before Long, A Minority In The UK!!! Nov 21, 2010
How to pronounce the Icelandic volcano name with a nice little ditty. :)
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Llanfair-sign sml.jpg
This is going to sound SO sad...I have a picture of me taken not 2 weeks ago in front of THAT Welsh sign! This railway station notice actually has a phonetic spelling written underneath, but is still not quite as it should be said.

The translation of the name is:

"The Church of Mary in the Hollow of the white hazel near the fierce whirlpool and the church of Tysilio by the red cave"

8) 8) 8)

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