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What a terrible story. I think both the boys and girls should get house arrest with those ankle alarms! Keep them out of trouble and thinking about what they did for a while! It is not appropriate for six boys to go to a park to have se.x with two girls who may very well be lying about their age. I doubt they actually cared because they were likely only thinking about getting laid. They boys knew they outnumbered the girls and knew there was the potential for things to get out of hand. If those girls were being suggestive and initially wanted to have s.ex, but then changed their minds, they likely would feel compelled to go through with it because they were outnumbered. The girls should know the age of consent and never have lied about their age. They were all foolish to have put themselves in that situation.

Seriously, why don't parents know what their kids are doing on the internet and why are kids allowed to stay out so late, and unsupervised?

Of course kids who hit puberty are feeling more s.exual and are curious about se.x - but it is up to parents and society in general to encourage kids to wait until they are more mature and can handle the complications and consequences of having s.ex.

bring out the whip

what's important is the massage that the judge sent to the kids ! its ok for underage to have se> if it is their wish ??!!?? parents can go as fare as educating their kids to a certain age but can't watch them 24/7 and can't stop negative society influences on them "to be cool""

uaekid wrote:what's important is the massage that the judge sent to the kids ! its ok for underage to have se> if it is their wish ??!!?? parents can go as fare as educating their kids to a certain age but can't watch them 24/7 and can't stop negative society influences on them "to be cool""

I don't think that was the message sent out from the Judge. I think he is acknowledging that it wasn't only the fault of the men in this situation. They weren't let off but had their punishment reduced. The girls must shoulder their responsibility too.
From what I know of kids in the UK, most would not consider this to be cool at all.
Contrary to what Shafique would have you believe there are some very nice and well behaved teenagers in the UK today. Not all girls are single teenage mothers and have lost their virginity by age 12.
Unfortunately you get scum in all societies and it's not exclusive to the UK.

uaekid wrote:what's important is the massage that the judge sent to the kids ! its ok for underage to have se> if it is their wish ??!!?? parents can go as fare as educating their kids to a certain age but can't watch them 24/7 and can't stop negative society influences on them "to be cool""

You're exactly right on that. It's pretty shocking by any standards.

^I'm prudish enough to think this would be shocking if the girls were 16 as they claimed on FB.



Perhaps it is a class thing - but I'm not sure I'd assume that only the lower social orders engage in group s.ex etc at young ages. I think that it is more to do with how the kids are brought up and the values they have, not what social class they are. I'm sure that rich teenage boys are as horny as the poorer guys. They just have better lawyers, I'd guess.

Cheers,
Shafique

I see you didn't address my query as how you suspect many 12 year olds are not virgins Shafique. I wondered whether you were trying to unburden yourself or something.

shafique wrote:Shocking stuff on a number of levels.

I shudder to think that if the girls were 16 as they claimed, then there would be no crime and no story.

(I have to say though, I agree with eh on this - although, given that 12 year old mothers make it to UK national stats, I suspect more than 0.01% of 12 year olds in the UK are not virgins.. )



Cheers,
Shafique

You really must brush up on your comprehension skills BM.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:

shafique wrote:Shocking stuff on a number of levels.

I shudder to think that if the girls were 16 as they claimed, then there would be no crime and no story.

(I have to say though, I agree with eh on this - although, given that 12 year old mothers make it to UK national stats, I suspect more than 0.01% of 12 year olds in the UK are not virgins.. )



Cheers,
Shafique

You really must brush up on your comprehension skills BM.


Cheers,
Shafique

I would find it hard to improve on an 'A' for English comprehension. I've also just completed a course in plain speaking especially designed for conversing with thickos.

Did you pass the course? Or was it one of those designed for thickos where everyone passes?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:Did you pass the course? Or was it one of those designed for thickos where everyone passes?

Cheers,
Shafique

No, I think your comprehension skills are failing you Shafique. Did you study English under a coconut tree?
I said the course was especially designed for conversing with thickos. That means (in plain English) that you keep things really simple. We have to consider that foreigners may not understand us. Did I make that clear enough?

I simply asked whether you passed the course? Was the question difficult?

Here, I'll make it easy for you - choose one:
1. Yes, I passed the course and can now converse with thickos
2. Mmm, the biscuits were nice and I had nice chats with the fellow with the comb-over.



Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:I simply asked whether you passed the course? Was the question difficult?

Here, I'll make it easy for you - choose one:
1. Yes, I passed the course and can now converse with thickos
2. Mmm, the biscuits were nice and I had nice chats with the fellow with the comb-over.



Cheers,
Shafique

I don't believe the course had a pass or a fail. It was a course, not an exam. You undergo a course of tuition and at the end (if appropriate) you take an exam to determine if you passed or failed the course. Some courses don't have an exam at the end. This was one of those courses.
So no, I can't choose one.

Who was the fellow with the comb over? I don't remember seeing him. There wasn't anyone with a beard either.

shafique wrote:Did you pass the course? Or was it one of those designed for thickos where everyone passes?

You see, you could have just said 'everyone passes the course' and we would have understood.



Anyway, I'm glad you're employer is taking the initiative to get you to be able to talk to thickos. I'm sure they'll appreciate it.

Cheers,
Shafique

Sorry Shafique, I obviously hadn't taken the course seriously enough and I'm still not writing clearly enough for you.

My employer is the British Government, and unfortunatley I have to be able to converse with everyone, no matter how low their level of level of intelligence, just as I am doing now.

I know who your employer is - and as I said, it is enlightened of them to help you converse with the 'thickos' as you put it.

I refer you to my previous posts about comprehension.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:I know who your employer is - and as I said, it is enlightened of them to help you converse with the 'thickos' as you put it.

I refer you to my previous posts about comprehension.

Cheers,
Shafique

I nearly pulled you on your spelling on the other topic but decided against it.

I am in awe of your restraint.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:I am in awe of your restraint.

Cheers,
Shafique

You should try it, it feels really good!

Wise words, oh enlightened one.

Cheers,
Shafique

Is that me off the foe list, or am I on probation?