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UAE is losing its national identity? wow..


Navigator Hey!
xero_ and firefingers
It is funny to read the talk. But it reminds a game we call (in engl translate) "p e n i s m e a s u r m e n t". Who has bigger? No offence gentlemen. Better meet with each other and take couple of beer or sheesha. Then go back to topic :)
Lots of foreingers in UAE makes locals worry about loosing their national identity. But now it gone so far to leave without expats. And not only because locals wouldn't work. Just because the number of locals are hopless less than number of places needs to work . So even all emirati people cound not serve for themselfs. But what do we talk about? Any local always had a servant(s) (or slaves) to be free of routine work and spend own time for noble dids. It is part of their culture, which they will keep and follow always.
xero_ lol fartfingers getting so worked up huh? careful now you might stretch a nerd muscle :lol: btw advance self defence is part of escrima kali, its called advance because what ive taken is part of AFP military training you stupid idiot. means swords/knives/impact weapons. 80kgs of solid muscle? HAHAHAHAHHA!!!! so what you lift iron plates to get your dick smaller? and you want to send me pics too? WTF?? i aint gay as your friends who send each other half naked pics ok? my hands are made of solid steel through training, so are my shins that can brake your legs in 1 solid and extremely excrutiating hit, faggy! firefingers self defence !!! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I thought those classes are for women who walks alone going home LOOOOOOOL oooohhh someone is scared from the bad guys who steals purses ?? bitc* sweet heart to be fair with you msg me your email , I'll send you PICs of an 80kg pure mussels freak which happens to be me, boy when I'm done with you I'll make you change that skull to a colorful rainbow. I will make you my personal bitc* but hey enough talking, since you talked the talk ,walk the walk and don't chicken out , you will look bad in front of this shi*hall forum members. And I can even go 1 vs 3 , how is that for you ? Anywhere any time 6192555 No need for my friends , I'll show up at your door steps ..I'm serious. Lets dance xero_
thanks for the offer but no thanks, i like my arse virgin the way it is. besides ill bet you cant even fight 1v1. youll always end up calling some of your gay friends to help you win a fight by carrying leather slippers to beat me up LMAO! by the way youre challenging a guy who takes boxing, escrima kali, muay thai, and advanced self defence. I dont really wanna end up in jail after i break a couple of your ribs and joints :cry: and dude stop with the gay mirc chat lingo youre having there. its really gettin obvious you lure boys in chat rooms and take em to the dessert. xero_
I cant even play online games without experiencing lag, and you still call it a "service"?? wtf ? my country is recognized as third world but still has 100x better internet services than here, plus 99% cheaper as well! Ya sure they operate in 4 countries more like afghanistan, iraq, bosnia, and cambodia but those countries really dont have much of internet services now do they? And hey dude, youre the one who should be kept off the net coz you might lure another french boy in the dessert with your hairy gay friends :lol: pinoy1
I wonder who wanted technology, tall buildings, big cars, modern western living in here in the first place? And now this...

Blame it on the cheap asian labor force! lol!
If they worry about losing their "national identity" so much and are afraid of the "disease", then stop trying to be 21st-century-ish and definitely stop asians from getting here!
IMHO, if they educate themselves and work hard enough (It's not just about making more babies! lol!)- and not depend on disease-ridden slave labor, they might retain some of their national identity by building their nation themselves. Though I can't imagine their ways merging with the 21st century and seeing locals sweating it out in construction sites.
Or, they can opt to part with their H3's and PS3's- the materialistic western lifestyle and go back to living in tents, shepherding sheep in the desert, and ride camels while holding up a falcon.
Bleh! firefingers
so sad
you see my friend you got it all mixed up !!
your countries did not succeed in educating your sorry __!!___ and did not succeed in providing you jobs as well , and that’s why you guys are slaving here, so don't take it out on us.
And who told you we are trying to be 21st-century-ish ? it's the 21st-century that is trying to catch up with us .can't you see ?
we are educated my friend and that's why we are not working in constructions daaaa and yaa one more thing we will never go back to living in tents, shepherding sheep in the desert, and ride camels while holding up a falcon because we never left it . regardless of every thing we are still proud of who we are, our history and traditions
so stop embarrassing your self dear.. Chocoholic Hahahahahahahaha - thanks for the giggle FF, don't think I've laughed so hard in ages! firefingers
mmmm ... well Chocoholic I can giggle you more if you want but it's going to be hard and wet this time , then you'll be firefingersholic :)
like it honey ? Chocoholic er no sorry because unfortunately although you guys all like to try, arab guys do nothing for me - ho hum :roll:

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firefingers
ok fine, it was worth a shot :) pinoy1 It is true there's no good job back in my poor country, but you are wrong in saying that it failed to educate me. I'm sorry but I am not at all slaving away here. I am working for an international company that compensates employees based on their skills, and I am paid very well. Going back to the 'national identity' crisis, what irks me is that they are now blaming the influx of asians for the dilemma- called it a disease even, when they chose to use (read: abuse) them to make the country what it is now. They should be brave enough to face the consequences of their decisions and stop pointing fingers at others. If they think asians are at fault, then remove all of them from here and never enslave, err, employ a single one from then on. Let us see how this country will fare. Not_Sure
Well put my friend...only one thing i dont get...you keep saying "we" here and there....who exactly is "we" ?
Locals? we all know locals are only in thousands in UAE and are getting less and less year by year.....no more pure locals....all of them mixed, asians, europeans....
What we? there is no we....so i think the only educated smarted people who you refer to as "we" arrrrrrrrrrrrrrre the filipinos, indians, and foreigners.....
You got one side of the story right...but not the other...
And if you dont get what im trying to say, ask yourself and the so called local people you know around you...
"where is your grandfather or grandmother from: ?"
u get the picture i hope. gtmash
So....where's your tent? Bleakus yo firefighters, please stop using the word "we", it makes me look bad. About the last thing you wrote, no "its is Not worth a shot".......trust me. pinoy1, you know whats happening around here in dubai, i dont know why you wanna open this topic anyway. not_sure, has a point to what he is trying to say firefingers
My response in a non sense like you.
Consequences of their decisions !! so you are admitting there are Consequences ?
I'm not against you guys being here but against you guys thinking you did us a favor !
This country was going to be built with or with out you guys and as a matter of fact Americans British were working here ( hard labor ) before you guys did back in the 60's and 70's .. not us asking for it but overseas companies being greedy in finding oil. that's in case you think you are doing us a favor.. even with no isain we still have Mexicans  just kidding .
My response conceding me reading books and watching world news ( unlike you )the well educated well paid person :
Suppose all of you got sent back home, don't you think there will be an economy crisis ?what about the unemployment rate going up ? cash flow ? stocks markets ? The countries in this issue relations ? all the chain reaction behind it ? firefingers
You sure picked the right nick name for your self Not_Sure ..
Oh well ..anyway..you are embarrassing your self too my asking an irrelevant question to the subject !! what is has to do with what we are talking about to where my grandmothers and fathers came from ?? from the moon ! then what ?
But I ll give the readers a hint of our past .. mostly we were bidwean as you guys call it from the desert areas , some were farmers like in alain and fishermen from the eastern emirates.. since the oil got discovered in the reagion some GCC countries families came down here and settled down in the new built cities back in the 60's bcz more jobs were available.
It does not matter where came from as long as we are greatful to the country or the person who reached out to help me in any matter, I'll always be greatful to the United States that allowed me to get educated there.
u get the picture i hope. firefingers
ask you mom funny man, she has been there .... opsss firefingers
is she that old ?
mermaid
Sorry fingersfighter to tell you that, it s the truth, you guys get education in best univerties in US and UK but unfortunatly you don t act like educated people, you act like ignorant. firefingers
we all can make jokes dear but thanks for pointing that out. after all I'm just standing up to what I beleive in, don't we all ? gtmash
Oh ok. Heritage Village. deadlife well sooner or later it had to happen They brought this upon themselves and will most probably regret it later mermaid Honestly guys you should be greatful to this country that open doors for you for better life i mean good job, good salary things you coudn t find in your country even with good education. Good luck. uaebadoo
First I am sure that the statement of Lt Gen Dahi Khalfan, Chief of Dubai ploice was not translated Properly from Arabic to English or the reporter meant to send an offensive message to readers.
2nd: Our country is only 37 years old but have achieved what other countries did not and will not reach in hundred of years, Locals in this country comes from different Arabian tribes who used to live in the dessert and on the coast, our grand parents lived a hard life, my father told me, they used to go Walking for 3 days to reach Duabi from Alain. The sucess of this country came from Nationals and our great leaders, we hired and will hire expats from unskilled Labours to High Skilled Advisors to work for us. we highly appreciate their work but If we dont pay them, No one will stay in this country. When our grand parents lived the harsh life with no food except dates and water no expats came to help them.
We dont have what you called Slave Labor simply because no one is forced to work against his will, Slavory was in the US to the Blacks, and to the Indians by the British. I wonder why you want a local to work in construction Site and swet, It is not a shame if they will pay me 30k per month, because i need this amount to live a decent life in UAE, While an aisan worker who gets 1000 AED is equivalent to maybe 15000 AED in his country and live a decent life.
Shame on you if you think living in the dessert with Camels and sheeps is kind of low level for us, We are proudly bedewn who life the harsh life and the Lions of War. Chocoholic :roll: Clearly you don't read the papers then my friend, or you would have seen the stories about people tricked into coming here with good jobs and good salaries, only to have their money and passports stolen and forced to work illegally colelcting boxes, and they're lucky to make 500 Dhs a month! 30K a month - lucky you! One of these guys that works for a bank, sitting around all day chatting on the phone are you? desert surfer
Well he can see prostitutes soliciting.......may be he considers it age old tradition... :lol:

Well Al Qubaisi, it is due to western technology that you are blabbing with the mic and how I got to hear in first place. If you dont like it then like a proud emirati you must go back to desert on camel, donkey or legs with palm made shoes and hand woven dishdasha and built a tent with palm then rear organic cows, chicken and goat. But dont use that goddamn telephone to call 999 when you have fallen from camel.
The whole article is "problem based" no probable solution was ever mentioned. sa4877 This entire post has unfortunately got the 'we' v/s 'them' shade. As an expat, i have tremendous respect for the locals. Infact i personally think that the locals (nationals) are generally a set of wonderful people. there is but a small minority among the locals who are a scar but it would be unfortunate to use that as a reference point. That the 'asians' are an exploited lot is true but its not fair to place the blame entirely on the 'locals'. The so called exploitation is resorted to by everyone including the large organisations. And by the way, don't forget that all cases of the 'poor indian labourer who gets tricked' has an indian connection anyway. These guys are brought here by indian agents so lets not place the blame for everything on the locals. Cheers uaebadoo
Banks dont pay locals 30k !!!, Well my friend I work in AbuDhabi where University Graduate starts @ 30k uaebadoo
From what you have said I think you are a child, Go to to your Daddy to teach you how to worship Cows uaebadoo
Exactly, I cant say all locals are perfect, I think people should understand the Culture before they draw conclusions, they take western living as the Ideal case, I would agree in term of people rights, Modern Technolgy, Ideal systems, but when it comes to morals, Values, Ethics , Religion I would not agree, Unfortunetly some people take exceptional cases as general Impression about the whole society.
Best Regards desert surfer
You are wrong again for 5th time. God bless this place when university graduates expect red carpet after graduation, use teller's place as phone booth etc.
That being said I have many local friends and have very good relations from Sharjah urban planning to AD Military, the one who are good at their jobs accept that government is spoiling the new graduates by paying em huge amount of money instead of working hard and earning it.
That article shows mentality of majority locals, where blaming and scapegoating are common. If you dont want any expatriates you have an option, dont give em visa. Easy as 1 2. Truthy oops wrong quote uaebadoo

[color=red]Prostitution is not part of our tradition as you said, ask your father if you know who he is , This is part of your family tradtion back in your country
You dont know bedwens very well, we will teach you how to ride on a camel [/color]:lol:
As I said earlier, Expats from different parts of the world are part of the ongoing development in the country,Their contribution is highly apprecaited, They are paid good and get good experience which qualify them to work in other countries or back in their home land, Exceptional cases happens in all countries including homless people in the streets of London, NewYork, and Paris, So can you say all the people are poor at these countries!!!
Again I will explain the same point, because some idiots dont want to get it, The cost of living in UAE is much Higher than some other Asian countires, example, To build a house in UAE, you will pay minimum 1 Million , In other countries 100 k build the same house, So a UAE National who gets 30 k is equal to the other worker who gets 3 k. Taimoor Smell Racism! mooh
That was a pretty silly example actually. I'd reconsider paying you 30k if that was true.
Face it, UAE nationals indeed lost a bit of their culture, with so many foreigners moving in. There are many area's where you won't find a single local living.
There are nice Emirati's, and there are less-nice ones. Same with all nationalities.
Oh, and "desert" is with a single S. pinoy1
No, I don't earn money here and spend it back home. I spend it here! So I have to buy the same expensive stuff and pay the same expensive rent as everyone else in Dubai.
Anyway, that's beyond the point. I know a lot of locals, most of them are really good, hardworking people that's why I'd like to apologize about that last offensive remark. It was completely uncalled for.
I just hope these supposedly educated people who spoke in that conference knew more about what they are talking about and be realistic in addressing the problem, rather than putting the blame on things and people that was and is instrumental in building this nation and which this country accepted in the first place. uaebadoo
My friend what was written no way could have been said by Gen Dhahei Khalfan, as I said earlier there was a problem in translating his statement, this cant be even written in Arabic newspapers, the blame is on the whole situation not on some people, but as you know some people resist change and everything has advantages and disadvantages Chocoholic Did any of you see the 60 Minutes documentary on Dubai last year? With interviews from Sheikh Mohd and many of his top guys - you can find it on youtube. Somer very interesting comments were made, but one that stood out most to me, was an Emirati lady professor basicaly saying that locals never asked for their country to become this way, that no-one ever consulted them. In that respect I actually feel sorry for many locals, because that's true. firefingers
god .. you seem to know so much about locals and their country ! desert surfer
Choco did you see the ABC (I guess ) one where the guy goes to sheikh's ranch and the royal stables then goes to Sonapour (known as city of gold) and then comes back asks the questions to one of the minister " The horses have better condition than those men living in city of gold!" LOL you should have seen his face.
If I was interviewing that lady I would have asked why the hell did you turn Dubai to tourist city? Why are you making so many mega projects? Why are you providing working visas to many ppl? Between 2006 and 2007 there was ONE MILLION increase of expatriate population. HOLLY BULLONY ONE million! and you complain your culture is eroding. Everyday I open newspaper I see the topic in front page and there was pic a local family with frowned faces and all the expatriates in the background happy.
There wasnt any viable solution suggested. One solution they suggest is make babies. Well I believe in quality than quantity. Increase in family size will decrease standard of living and the children just run up and down, neglected without manners and brought up by maids. All they do is complain complain complain. If I was a local and I found my culture eroding hell I would first stop incoming new workers. Implement spoken arabic system by opening practical arabic learning school. Make some arab ppl who confirm to standards citizens. (come on there are lots of your arab bros especially palestenians dying , share some of your oil wealth). Keep quality educated ppl inside and provide citizenship.
And locals better do fast because as most develoing countries are developing like many South Asian countries less and less workers will come to work here from these countries. You may built skyscrapers and other mega projects but a city is vibrant mainly due to quality ppl living there not the buildings, islands or cars - these are temporary glamor. Chocoholic
Yeah I do actually! I have many many local friends, and most of them would kick your sorry arse for your crappy attitude!
I've lived in the Middle East for a third of my life, so I am very clear on how things work. YOU clearly don't even know what's going on in your own back yard. Khalid021 UAE needs foreign workers to keep it's economy going. It's a fact. Most of UAE nationals are lazy, corrupt and inefficient. Also a fact. About National Identity crisis, well half of UAE nationals are actually from Iran. Go figure. What's next? UAE Nazi Party? netmissile [quote="firefingers"]
I think Firefingers forgot that their ancestors were not only farmers and fishermen, but also Pirates at the Gulf Sea, and labour at the Bombay Ports in India.
Truely, The treatment for the expats in UAE are like slaves.
In European countries, Expats have equal rights as a citizen they get Medical Benefits, with Human Rights as well and also a minimum national wage right to every person in Europe expat or citizen.,
but expats slaves in UAE does not have equal rights as a citizen of UAE.
They try to get their work done with the least wage as possible with no minimum national wage limit, no human rights, no medical benefits. Navigator
Please specify which kind of expats you refer to - construction sites workers, maidens, bank staff, certifeid consultants, sales mangers ? :wink: xslim12 !! firefingers [quote="netmissile"]
Pirates at the Gulf Sea LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL now that’s a first
But funny as hell, I pictures us with the traditional clothing and wearing the eye patch LOOOOOOOOOL you are just stupid but again funny .
Truly, The treatment for the expats in UAE are like slaves.
Yes , I agree , but from their own kind who wons those international companies ( statement from an Indian minister ).
In European countries, Expats have equal rights as a citizen they get Medical Benefits.
Don't every one here does ? everyone has a medical card dummy !
expats slaves in UAE does not have equal rights as a citizen of UAE.
hell no, we will never be equal man , why should we ? all industrial European countries has parties that are against expats, beside you are always welcome to leave when every you want but you wont bcz they unlike us wont let shitty people live there.
Why is it the expats around me friends and work buddies are living and getting paid well ($8000 - $1000 ) and you guys are not, maybe the problem is in you, don't you think loser ? or is you expect all jobs pays the same ? now that would be stupid , wouldn't it ?
Ya answer Navigator, bcz the way I see it is that everyone is living a reasonable life with a car and party like hell on weekends LOOOOL , but don't work in fast food resturant and dreams of living in a villa man
and how bad can locals be , we are only 2% of the population :) uaebadoo
Yes we need foreign workers, and they are paid, not for free :lol:
[color=red]Most of UAE nationals are lazy, corrupt and inefficient. Also a fact.[/color]
oh my god how much you hate us :lol: , we have a saying in local language : The clouds are high so when dogs bark on the ground, Clouds will never be effected.
[color=red]well half of UAE nationals are actually from Iran[/color]
You dont know sh*t about history, we have small number of people especailly in Dubai& Sharjah who come from Iranian Origin but most of them come from the Arabian Tribes in the South of Iran (Arabstan), this cost used to Arabian not Persian, All the rest of the people come from Arabian Tribes from Saudi Arabia, Oman, And Yamen, and some tribes used to live in this land for hundreds of years, If you want to know the history ask the British, Portuguese and the Holland who were kicked out by our grand fathers :lol: Ultrakiller asians are destroying the workforce market for that the salaries went soo much down Ultrakiller example is one local who cheat me 100% this year full-time.no residence,no house,f&%# you lazy man u have 70k dhs. salary and ua are so much greedy with me?i am asking for 10k dhs. salary and an apartament in Deira and u are trying to take them like a candy from a kid. Most nationals are inefficient at high salaries without any education. My discussion is CLOSED. @Admin:Why u didn't put at emoticons one with the board written CLOSED? uaebadoo
Oh, we have another one here :shock: , Body If one local is bad it does not mean all of them are bad, I think you were an expensive Canday for him so he had another cheaper and maybe better Canday, and because his salary is 70k, you want him to give you 10k, How greedy are you :x , and your discussion is closed because you stand on a weak point my dear :twisted: firefingers
how could we be inefficient if we made such an idot like you work for a hall year with no written contract , why did you work with no written contract, now it is either you are realy an idot to do so or you were the enefficient and thats why you did payed the 10 k LOOOOOOOL muslimbangladeshi All western countries are doing it and none of the asians none of the westerners none of the africans raise a hue or cry about it - western countries testing citizenship with cultural conformity tests. UAE should do the same.
UAE should require of foreigners to speak, act, and live according to Emirati and Islamic culture and religion. If not, get lost!
I am Bangladeshi who doesnt live in UAE and have been to many nonmuslim countries, but none is as open minded as Emirates or some Muslim countries.
Many christian western or Asian countries are strongly anti Islamic, so how about Emirates require christians to put up with pope or pontificial cartoons depicting them as vicious monsters, as perverts or homosexuals? That should teach christian westerners something about freedom of speech I think. And also something about having to put up with primacy of local rules.
I am not looking for confrontation but Dubai has fantastic chance to improve and act as beacon for Muslim countries. It should be leader of Muslim countries business politics science and culture.
This step of invoking laws testing christian westerners conformity to Dubai law shall be a good one I hope. pinoy1 I was just thinking.. if Dubai is going for tourism as its means of income (or one of its major sources of income) in the future, wouldn't it be detrimental to its culture (especially that most tourist are ignorant of the country' culture and laws)? For example: 1. Tourists love taking pictures. We all know that it is not right to take pictures of women wearing abaya/hijab be it intentionally or accidentally, and these women can actually call the police on them. 2. Tourists love to eat. How about during the ramadan? Will the government prohibit kids in dubailand from eating their popcorn and cotton candy during the day? 3. Tourists love to drink alcohol. Period. etc.. etc.. Who would want to tour in a country where their every move must be guarded? So I think it will be either the country will have to sacrifice some of its culture in favor of mass tourism or will have to settle for less income from fewer tourist. xibit is it true that according to local culture the local women are circumcised over here in the UAE and their fathers destroy the girls g spots at a small age because the previlege of pleasure is only for men. Navigator
Hmm... what makes you think so? Any facts please.... Chocoholic Muslimb, Sadly Dubai wants it's income from tourism and investment, if they implemented what you suggest, I guarantee that the majority of that would siappear overnight, so it's never going to happen. Dubai has become far too westernised now for it ever to go back, and hey the Emirati's seem to be embracing it and not compalining about it, the complete opposite in fact. And as for freedom of speech? er we do put up with our Holy figures being made fun of all the time in the press in movies etc, but the difference is, we don't let it bother us - simple as. I went back to the UK last week and I'm telling you, everyone I spoke to said the place was on the verge of civil unrest because they're sick and tired of the immigration problem and others coming in forcing their way of life, their rules, religions etc on them. So as far as I;m concerned what goes around comes around, so put up and shut up! firefingers
You went back home woooooooow I never thought you would .. why dear ? you couldn't find a job here dear ? or is it your western qualification was not good enough ? anyway it is good that you left and I hope you won't come back , cuz this country is living in harmony and piece without people like you being around.
Regarding your " every one " and I assume British people, why is it if they have such view of the country , they are buying house by thousands in UAE and with their families are shifting to Dubai ? not enough land in UK.
Regarding us embracing our country, you just can't see it that we are too good to work in your class dear, our county is spoiling us being the GMs and CEO of the most successful governments and profitable global establishments in the world and you are just the tool we work with bcz we simply are not enuogh (only 5%) … just like back in the days when your country use to concur the 3rd world and assigned your self of being the rollers and slaves everyone there , so yaa what goes around comes around dear.so put up and shut up.
See ya Chocoholic No I went back for a visit numbnuts! And the reason 'British' people are leaving our own country and investing elsewhere is because our immigration laws suck and there's too many spongers from the rest of the world coming in, so our country is not our own, so we're all leaving! And I didn't say you were embracing your country, I said you were embracing 'our western' culture - learn to read would you! Clearly you're one of these uneducated CEO's that is forced to let everyone else do the work for you as you're too stupid to do it yourself - hahahahaha firefingers
I realy don't know what might please you. I thought you are in those poor immigrants side and now when they are in your country you call them spongers !!you are somthing uaebadoo
I like this statement because it is a fact ,but come on firefingers I think we are 20% :D :D pinoy1 What do you guys think about this?

I think it is contradictory to their concerns about losing the country's identity. :? Chocoholic
If they are true assylum seekers, or people who genuinely want to contribute to the society, then fine, no problem. what I cannot stand is all the low lifes coming in and living off the state and getting better treatment than the locals - how would you like that here?! And why should I pay for a jailed, hate provoking, terrorist recruiting, preacher and his family to live in an 800,000 pound house, spnging 50,000 pounds in benefits every year! Throw them out! johnnymac [quote="Chocoholic"]
Here, Here! It's one of the reasons I'm moving to Dubai. Why should I pay sh*t loads of tax & national insurance just for lazy bastards to come here, sit on their arse and spit out babies & bi*ch about the country! Everyone should work or f*ck off. Saying that, it's not just the people that come here from abroad. We've got more of our fareshare of home grown spongers! Chav's, wouldn't you just like to cover them in napalm!!
When will peoople realise that the world is just one little place & once there is total equality nations won't matter. People will move around the planet & hopefully oneday beyond. (Yup, I'm a Treky!)
Personally I wont be bi*tching about Dubai and their customs when I get there as I see it as them giving me an oportunity to make some big tax free bucks. I'm gratefull, if nothing else bagof "Personally I wont be bi*tching about Dubai and their customs when I get there as I see it as them giving me an oportunity to make some big tax free bucks. I'm gratefull, if nothing else" The first time you get a motoring fine for some unexplained reason and learn there no such thing as 'appealing' against it. Then you will find out about local customs. Or when you have to pay to get a licence to buy booze (because it is 'against local religious customs') and are then charged 30% tax when you buy, then you will find out what 'local customs' really means here. Or when you get into a dispute with an Emirati about business or even a car collision, and whether you are right or wrong the law will come down on the Emiraitis favour, and you will have no access to justice. That's local custom, too. So is this (rad link below) which you won't read in local papers because it offends 'local customs'. And don't expect to read some stories in The Sun or get onto Facebook, because..... you can probably guess. It's not all bad here, its a giggle for a couple of years but after that you soon be hankering for that sweet familiar taste of freedom.. for all of its faults (unless you are earning an outrageous salary, in which case, good luck to you - makes life living as a second class citizen in an authoritarian dictatorship bearable). P.S. And don't go thinking it's tax-free because it's not. There's plenty of taxes, and they're getting bigger all the time. johnnymac :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That story is bollocks!! Even if it's not it's just funny as hell!!!!!! :lol: :lol: I've factored in the alcohol. It may be a good thing that I have to go to a bar for a drink. May make me drink less! Even with Tax prices aren't too different from UK. I think for the oportunity Dubai presents the odd fine & bit of grief is worth it. You never know I may end up marrying some Gorgeous Arabian Princess and not have to worry about the equality thing! Thanks for wishing me luck. :wink: Navigator johnnymac
Alco... alco... aclo.....
What is the safest way:
a) Alcohol restriction and limitations, not allow drunk people go streets and parks?
b) Allow to drink, to be drunk enough to feel like lion but do shake walks and make troubles when wants to be "hero"?
Just compare city streets beetween two different countries. Chocoholic
ahahahaha and you 'believe' everything the newspaper tells you?! Oh please Etisalat and Du are NOT delivering things better than in Europe at all! They are waaaaay behind the times, overcharging and holding a monopoly, which in all other territories is illegal!
Poor old FF, obviously has led a very sheltered life and only crawls out from under his rock to have a go at people who are more worldyl, more travelled and better educated. We take pity on you! bagof
If you think that story is funny then you definately won't like it here. There's very very little mindless violence. The locals I've meet are extremely gracious and well-mannered. You might be better stayng in the UK in places where the degenerates who like that kind of thing stew in their own cess.
BTW, that story was also carried on the BBC and all other international news sites (outside UAE, obviously).
You've also missed the point about the booze, but otherwise it sounds like you've got it all worked out. See yu when you get here :wave: bagof
I agree with you on this point Navigator - the streets of the UK are awash with drunken and drugged scumbags who love to attack people and vandalise anything within reach.
The big, big advantage that Dubai has to offer is that it is comparatively crime-free in terms of violence and theft.
There needs to be responsibility with drinking, and where there is no responsibility, it needs to be curbed. I concede there is an argument for LESS freedom in some cases,in the West. (However, democracy and equality under the law are a basic human right of everyone - but are denied in the UAE).
Alcohol is against Muslim traditions, so when coming to a Muslim country I beleive that this shuld be respected by us non-Muslims.
But why does the Sheikh love alcohol so much if it is against local customs? It is because he makes 30% of all sales.
Is it any wonder that us ex-pats attach such little value to so-called 'local customs', when the customs just seem to be smokescreens for local rulers to profiteer in the name of Islam and to use the law as a personal privilege. firefingers
clearly we have a cheap as* gay …opss sorry I mean guy situation here !! if your cheap as* can not afford it does not mean it is expensive, it means get your as* to work in better job, and what better TECH do want ?? this company is giving you services that Europe does not even has hellooooooo and that’s why this local company is operating in more than 4 countries on their request , read a news paper ones in while dummy.
and sorry but this country has no place for a gay like you to show his butt on webcams so take your sexual sensations somewhere else you freak and keep the net safe for the kids stupid. xero_ fartfingers is here again with his funny bebsi grammar and to share his 2 bils :lol: i believe someone mentioned that top local leaders are doing such a great job here, educated in western countries or not. this argument cannot be proven if you consider RTA. WOW just look at that RTA leader doing such a great job digging a pit on 2 lane roads in dubai-sharjah roads, installing more salik gates to extort people saying that it eases traffic (btw whats the english translation of salik again? coz its seems its totally the opposite after just crossing 50mtrs from the bridge towards sheikh zayed rd. you start the traffic nightmares again). then you have UAE telecommunications. again WOW! both etisalat and du are locally owned and basically have the same owners! WTF? man like WTF?? MONOPOLY!!! and such extortionate rates for services that are now obsolete in most modern "21st "century countries as you gays say it". they charge double and block VOIP so that they gain more money and not allow simple people to use a much cheaper and more advanced technology so that they satisfy their greediness. Ok now we have 2 good examples of great companies with great leaders. What else do we have here? We get rapists. Not just ordinary rapists, but gang rapists who likes it in the dessert with little BOYS! it seems in the newspapers, men here prefer to rape boys wtf MAN!!! HAHAHAHHA!!!! Whos the BAKLA now? Daily theres a case of some little boys being gang raped by who else///. here ill provide a link for ya; <--- this is just one of the many cases, if you read gulf news (racism example; A filipino guy defends himself in a fight outside church, he killed one of the man who attacked him. he gets life sentence in jail right? yes, its a fact. Locals and some arab guys gang rape some women in Dubai, what sentences they get? 2 yrs in jail or less most likely. In conclusion, that article is definitely wrong/mistated coz we are not a disease since we asians/other expats are the ones who built the new Dubai. Also I believe that fartfingers be kept on tight surveilance as he might rape some boys with his friends somewhere in the dessert. Sincerely yours, xero_ :P johnnymac
I got the point. "local customs"are just all about the Benjamins, Yeah?
Still considering the UKs local customs of having the inland revenue rape you on tax for everything & the treadition of letting the scumbags of the nation do as they please while they pay for it with my fu*king money.... I don't mind the UAE blatently just taking a bit of money for the sake of it.
As for the story not being funny. Of course it is. Just coz it was reported on the BBC it doesn't make it true. Shame on you, you should know better than to believe the news!! :D
Just imagine the same story but with Prince Charles or someone making advances towards this fella. Hell, I bet that's actually happened sometime.. All very amusing!
Someone was goinng on about little boys being abused in Dubai. Now I think that's bang out of fu*king order and them fu*kers should be left to the kids families 'for them to exact a bit of justice!... but again, it happens everywhere. Just look at catholic priests!! Lol :lol:
I figure where ever you are in the world there's gona be sh*tty things happening to you & those around you. And there'no point in worrying about things you can't controll! firefingers
Dude you need to chill out and relax, you are one mad dude , all I can say is that there are 6 or 7 international airports in the country and they all have flights to what ever sh*t hall with good communication and roads companies country you came from.
and yaa I do get the feelings some times of raping sweet hearts bitc*hs like you who hide behind their keyboards at home and call ppl names..why don't we meet sometimes sugar and see your self if I fart or make crying babies like 'an be a doll .let me spank that soft side of yours.
don't be shy hoeny you always can msg me privtely mwh. g00se I'm sorry, but was I the only one who was LMAO at faartyfingrs and Xero verbally beeyatch-slappin each other ? Wouldn't wannna mess with either of 'em. But my money would have to be on anyone who's practised muey thai. Act on up, Xero ! fightfightfightfight :lol: xero_ lol i was just playing him like a puppet, his IQ is so small it wasnt too fun though. id be better off teasing my african grey. anyways im out, bye fartfingers, maybe next time ill show you some of my bone crunching elbow & knee strikes. my job here is done :lol: muslimbangladeshi
once you've invested a sum it's really hard to recoup that sum overnight, to withdraw it even if you want to do it.

Who are your holy figures? Does DUBAI make fun of christian western'ers holy figures in cartoons, editorials, etc?

Where r u from? This comment perplexes me; what does it mean? "what goes around....shut up!"? In the context of the thread does it have any relevance?
I am waiting for ur reply I have more things to add. Just need to see ur reply first muslimbangladeshi
kind of like singapore -ur description of UAE
the problems u mentioned if true wont bother me much I sincerely hope. And alcohol isnt an option for me I am very glad they discourage it I would've banned it outright if I were in charge of government. Its detrimental to self and society. firefingersx
dam it I think I got got kicked out my the admin bcz of my dirty language .. ohh well.
What job, chickening out ? com'an I gave you an offer you can't refuse , you with your so called fighting skills and knifes vs me , how could you say no.
How could you sleep knowing you are a pu*** ?
How could you sleep knowing you are Coward ?
Ok how is that, you pretend you are one of those hero figures you play on line, com'an live your immature wet dream LOOOOOOOOOOOOL firefingersx
Don't mind here , she is a big Hypocrite. When it comes to here own interests she changes her principles. firefingersx
sorry I mean to quote chocohlic
dam it what is happening to me :) bushra21 this entire thread is a joke johnnymac [quote="muslimbangladeshi"]
Lol! It's called a figure of speach!! You know, the use of figurative language? Ring any bells?
He runs fast. (literal)
He runs fast like the wind (figurative).
Anyway, it doesn't matter ... what they're talking about is Karma! :roll: Chocoholic Oh FF, just give it a rest would you! I just tell it exactly how it is and you choose to just brush issues aside. You're the hypocrit! Muslimb, quite frankly I can't be bothered, I've said everything I need to say, if you can't figure it out, too bad. sa4877 phew... choco... you sound like my mother!!



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