| Tracey |
Absolutely true |
| Ali-1974 |
| Although the majority of Dubai's population consists of many nationalities but I increasingly hear of poeple complaining about racisim in Dubai particularly from Indian and Pakistani people who work in Dubai. I hear that better jobs & salaries are offered to European white expats. Indians are treated badly by the locals as well as other white and non white expats. Please comment. |
| Liban |
| Western expats, GCC members, and some other arab nationalities are treated the best. Indians, philipnos, pakis, bangladeshis, asians in general are treated with disdain. Not always the case as some asians have made it in the upper echelons in Dubai but its rare... |
| Ali-1974 |
| So you also think that Dubai is a racist city? to me it apears to be much more racist than some European cities. what about black people , where do they fit in all this ? |
| Liban |
| More racist than Europe?? Hehe... I doubt it, continental Europeans are racist swine par excellence 8) Seriously, its racist but not the kind of racism which has people scream go home ya paki or something like that.... Its more like during an interview they say we want a dark skinned laborer from India or we want a lighter skinned European white collar engineer, etc... As for blacks, I dunno... I think they will be in the same category as Indians for African blacks, western blacks may not fare better... Worth noting that in Islam, all forms of bigotry and racism are strictly forbidden... |
| Nik |
| Very good point liban...there is a different kind of racism, more of a cold racism, without the overt facets of racism in other countries, but just as ugly...in fact racism is toned down here but more widespread I'd say...its spread more evenly across people, not in pockets as elsewhere...everyone holds on at least some bias on that basis here... Its almost a sort of polite racism lol, which is even worse, coz when something is wrong, there is nothing more evil than it going unchallenged...there is no rage and they should be....What is it they say ? “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” there's always a quiet whimper but people always look at the 'big picture' and feel they're better off in relative terms rather than absolute ones, and as a result settle for what is really an unacceptable situation...not sayin I'm not guilty of the same, but every once in a while the bubble bursts and the farce of it all is quite palpable. I guess the people who tolerate racism directed at them are also partially to blame, but of course not to the same degree as those who profit from it, and certainly not as much as the perpetrators. In a way its become so ingrained because both sides accept as a fact of life....its multitiered as well with diff groups of nationalities as diff levels...there's a peckin order for sure...whats odd is that people of one race will discriminate against those of the same race in favor of someone up the pecking order...guess everyone just tries to rise above by ingratiating themselves to the 'privileged' ones...sigh don't see it changing anytime soon though |
| Pumpkin Escobar |
| At least they dont stick the dogs and fire hoses on you. It seems to be a more implied racism, which is almost the worst kind, becasue it gets excepted as "just the way it is" |
| abs |
| Oh yes..its here. Racism. But then I wouldn't "knock over the whole boat of passengers with 1 bamboo pole" A word of advise. When you face such things, just give them a smile you would give a child and walk away. Let them know you have more class then they think. Afterwards they will realise it themselves. Some atleast. Its when you try to stand up for it is when you bring yourself down to their level. Stay up there, friends. Don't stoop. Peace and grace to you all. |
| Pumpkin Escobar |
| THat "Turn the other cheek" $hit doesnt work. Revolution is the only way for these people to realize that there is a huge social and economical imbalence. |
| Liban |
| You have to educate them. Islam embraces all races, ethnicities and creeds as one. We are all God's servants. The people that are racist need to understand that we are all God's creations and we are without any right at all to pass judgment. Only He can. But if we are injured then Islam allows us to seek justice but only as per Sharia law. Gowing beyong Islamic law and seeking human justice is illegal. |
| abs |
..and they say its the "religious people" thats causing all the fighting... |
| Liban |
| Religious people do not cause fighting... Misguided people who think they are religious cause fighting... |
| Pumpkin Escobar |
| Me being neither, just someone who likes people to think on their own....... |
| Nik |
| Well I agree if someone SAYS something racist, you can turn the other cheek and take the moral high ground, but its stupid not to stand up to racist ACTIONS, one should not go gently into the good night...I'm not saying return the favor in kind ie; stoop to reverse racism, but fight against the injustice inflicted upon you...that said, as a product of dubai, I probably wouldn't even do that coz we're so inured to it being systemised...which is something I'll always feel ashamed of, but not strive to change unfortunately...Hmm y'know what people make fun of the US being such a litigious society, where lawsuits take place even for frivolous reasons, but I think thats a much better way than turning a blind eye to discrimination of any sort, or allowin the status quo....how many people sue here against the over racial discrimination that takes place on the job scene and in terms of remuneration? Much better to have a 1000 frivolous lawsuits than to let one person get unjustly victimized I say One fact we have to face is that all of us have some prejudices or the other, thats how we're wired....someone is not racist just because they have those prejudices in their hearts, they're racist when they air it publicly....thats what civilization is all about, reining in the baser animal instincts that feel good, for the general welfare and harmony of society...lol sorry if I sound preachy on this, but its really been something thats boggled my mind in the last few years |
| sniper420 |
well said. Dubai is low in human rights . |
| nezar33 |
| Guys..Dubai is still a new city and its growing so fast. before people who were living in this country were local and anyone who comes to the country was coming for work most likely in (construction or even as a housekeeper)..right now the country is growing so fast that new laws is coming each days. example foreigner could buy property and live in dubai, couple of years ago we couldnt see that happening. About being racist i think it depends to the person, however; most likely you wont experience any racist act in Dubai since people are very peacful out there. |
| bsorc |
| My family lived in Sharjah for 45 years...thts right 4 and a half decades...do i see any facilities or advancement.....> no coz its open to nationals who got the citizenship by links...b4 i wanted citizenship now my whole family hates....If we were in Britain we would be lving 10000 times better... |
| Chocoholic |
| Don't even get me started on that! |
| Liban |
So go to Britain.... Or Canada.... Or the States..... People come to the UAE to make money not to become citizens.... Besides I'd rather be Canadian than Emirati and immigrating to Canada for you is easy easy easy.... So why not leave and stop complaining? |
| BobbieMasoner |
| Agreed, Liban. People need to stop bloody well complaining- leave if you don't like it here. Everyone's here to make money, not to become a lifelong citizen. Why complain about things you can't change? waste of breath. |
| jag |
Same here, gotta love being Canadian, all round nice people 8) |
| jag |
Actually, I disagree. It isnt rare for asians to have made it to the top.. A good chunk of the very wealthy and successful people in Dubai are in fact Asians.. but a little clarification is needed here.. what people say here is true in the context of an asian working for someone (that just blows). But most of the successful millionare asians in Dubai (and there are a LOT of them) run their own businesses. Most business people in the UAE are in fact Arabs and Indians. You will not find that many westerners starting their own business here. That may be bcuz they are satisfied with their salaries or bcuz they dont see the UAE as a long term place and just see it as a transient one. That is why I decided a long time ago that if I was going to return to Dubai from Canada it would be for business only. No way was I going to come here and work for some company and have another person doing the exact same job as me get paid more just bcuz of skin colour or nationality. I believe that you get paid according to the value and skills/experience you bring to a company NOT your damn nationality or skin colour. I do not put up with that crap -- period. But then running a business aint easy and isnt for everyone.. so in the end it depends on your personality, your situation, and what you can take... As for the original poster, Dubai has come a longg way since the 70s mind you. Foreginers being able to own property was unimaginable.. so buy a house if you want to get a residence visa.. the UAE doesnt grant citizenship and you have to realize that. maybe they will in the future to long time residents who knows! |
| sniper420 |
I guess Liban was kicked from that part of continent. |
| HP |
[color=red]hahaha well Britain is better but never try to wish for Europe. You will clearly see the difference between White and Black. why do you not spend sometime here in Europe :0) . Well Dubai is much much better than white land. I think you better talk to D-Unti she would guide u better :0). [/color] |
| Lee |
| Yes UAE is so strict against demographic changes in the area due to decision making problem. As I know, the GCC area policy is determined by many factors. Saudi Arabia for example, according to some different understanding of Islam, it always tends to prevent cohabitation between Muslims an others. And UAE can’t stand apart. Another big fact, the area is fully dominated by US politic influence and secured by its troops in the Arabian Gulf, Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain. Thus, nothing counteracts US interest can happen. Nationalization of expat residents in GCC obviously will yield of much more national development, and will request higher development budget and income sources. This is while US regards the whole area as a “generous” source of black gold and it works against any changes that pass up the need of its products and armed forces, or any changes that content the area with its resources. Yes, the area is a bit of US colony, but still, Arab are not raciest, especially in GCC area where the classy segment is mostly of dark skinned ppl. |
| rathoras |
| Is it true that it is common for an indian to be refused entry to a pub or club? |
| XRW-147 |
| If you look like rags and have no 'accessory' on ur arm then yeah, its quite true. |
| sniper420 |
if thry dont allow take a sniper rifle and burst the head of the bouncer. When experts investigate they will find in the bullet in micro letter "Stop racism and Mo fos lemme in" that will teach a lesson . |
| Lee |
Hey who the f..k fool u with this bullsh..t? that’s defiantly lie whatever you look like. Yes, they verify your age coz no entry for under 21 years, but they even don’t bother asking about nationality. In fact is a bit of the other way. If u r dressing local dress (UAE national dress), you will be refused to enter by UAE law itself. Also, I don’t know if you know that UAE Arabs look extremely like Indian while all pubs staff and guards speak only English, so there is no way for them to distinguish nationalities. They never ask you for your ID if you look over 21 years. And they are NOT entitled to ask about your nationality. |
| outworldish |
| There is no doubt about it. Racism is there. But not on the government level. But Ignorance is on the incline here. An agent who gets official work done at the immigration, who prefers wearing shalwar kameez coz it represents his culture is automatically considered a pathan and treated like an illiterate..... whereas in Pakistan or India Sindhi's Punjabi's balochis brohis memon kachi muhajir they all wear shalwar kameez..... And mostly if you are a Pakistani..... Arabs don't say paki.... they will refer to you as Hindi..... any one seen Idiocracy? |
| Habib |
| No, Neither UAE in general nor Dubai in particular is a racist. No such animal is here. Those of you who claim Dubai is a racist nation or city, ought to cite a single example. All people are equal before the law. Take the labopr department as an example. In most cases they rule for the employees against the "local" employer. I will go to the extent of saying, UAE is a role model for the world. It is a peace-loving & business minded country, welcoming people from all walks of life, and extends a hand of help to all who are in distress. So, if you think otherwise, by all means, pack up and go home. End of the story. |
| Matthias_ |
| I think it is all e question of education. Form the west-people you think they all clever and high educated what they do is the right way and so on. From the east few high educated people are coming to UAE a lot of good skilled people are coming but most of the workers here from east having no good education they get trained to do on job and this they will do left and right from this job they fail. At the end all who are thinking they are better will blame all mistakes to the other. And racism works when you have a person you can blame and they it is their entire fault. Me I am from Germany and we were defiantly the best in racism, and still you will find them a lot in Germany. For me I don’t mind about racism people because I know why they are doing it. |
| Habib |
| Thank you Matthias, you've naild it. |
| Dad |
| I think this racist attitude in Dubai is due to our ability to generalize our experiences. For examples if I have a few bad experiences with Pakistani drivers I start to think that all of them a careless and irresponsible which in fact isn't true. |
| kanelli |
| Absolutely Dubai is a racist place. Habib, you are full of crap. |
| spirophonix |
| Did anyone still remember the time when they had invented the guns and start invading the natives of South's, Africa, Asia and so on... they made them slaves and raped the womends. And if you do not noticed that still on this day they are stilll making us a slave. But as everybody said in a polite manner and with pay. Example, who is your boss? Who shouted at you? Who instructed you to do your work? |
| britisharab |
| there is a whole lot of truth in this fact, it just cannot be denied. It's a great pity that this is so and that it's been left to fester itself away, which obviously is a dangerous thing to develop. The locals are to be blamed for this, maybe it develops from an attitude problem of their own, to try to be someone or something that is'nt there to mimic. let people act-away their blues, it makes the world go around, till you become intoxicated with pride |
| Dubai Knight |
Its actually endemic throughout the Arab world. I have encountered it everywhere in the Gulf and none worse than Saudi Arabia. There, no matter how well qualified or sophisticated your background or upbringing, you are categorised solely upon your nationality. It sucks! We have to live with it. :( :( :( Knight |
| puppypup |
| ^Hmmm......In Saudi can women (in a public setting) be mistaken for Asian by their feet? :? :scratch: :confused1: |
| Dubai Knight |
Nope, they are covered head to foot. :roll: :roll: :roll: Knight |
| wp7200 |
| There is definitely no overt racism but the racism is implicit. In organisations the salary for an Arab is different to a westerner to a south asian to a phillipino for doing the same job. The westerner gets paid the highest, then the Arabs, the south asians and the least is reserved for the Phillipinos, Bangladeshis & Sri Lankans. The reason for the salary difference is due to the base salary in their respective countries. In here you also come across reverse racism. The westerner typically gets charged higher than an Asian in places where haggling goes on. The Westerner is expected to tip and the westerner is expected to add significantly higher value to anything he does.. |
| Dubai Knight |
| Unless you are a dwarf... :lol: :lol: :lol: Knight |
| firefingersx |
| Well , if you are not strong enough in personality like most of the guys in this forum who only know how to cry there problems ,then yaa you ll face racism here and every where , stand up for your self and don not allow anyone to look at you low. |
| VPNman |
| Two days on the road here, and everybode becomes a racist. Me too. |
| temptationsu |
I agree, I worked in Dubai for a short time and people don't actually believe you when you say you're from England, unless you produce your drivers license or passport on the spot. It is at this point when they start treating you with respect. Those :twisted:s !! :lol: |
| tomjerry0506 |
| Friends, Ofcourse not only Dubai alone, but GCC countries are racist states at least in some levels. Specially black skinned people (Indians, Bangladeshis, Srilanka, Pak and Phil etc.) face the problem. In majority of the companies we can see Arabs (not UAE nationals, but mostly from Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Palestine and Lebanon etc.. are in top). They come to office for only drinking tea, coffee, and smoking. Though they are top placed the works will be done by the lower catagories, the above mentioned black skinned. If these people are not coming to office regularly, nobody will ask. And if any low level people takes a single sick leave, they will be angry! Also, payment, they obtain above 10000 and the same catagory Indians etc..obtain below 4000. Is this descrimination or racism? But we should salute the UAE government to allow all kinds of people work here. |
| michaeldubai |
| I would say its pretty much racist. The westerners treat all other like crap! The locals and other western arabs treat the eastern nationalities like crap! The eastern nationalities treat each other like crap! So basically its a "LOOK EAST" policy where anyone from the eastern part of the world is looked down upon. |
| o. |
| Who are "they" you are referring to here? It really makes a huge difference. While the majorit of Dubai residences are not locals, you cannot judge Dubai for being racist. Dubaians, if there is such a thing, are not racists, they are prejudiced. The Locals in general see themselves the number one nationality, and they should be. They are so nice and respectful but if it comes to a choice between, "they" (locals) or "them" (non-locals) they expect it to be "they" without thinking twice. They believe it is an earned right. The nonlocals on the other hand believe that it should be them, not they. Non locals believe that they are here to work instead of the locals because the locals, to put it nicely, dont feel like working right now. As for the residents who live here, I believe that indeed there is racism among them. I myself know a couple of people who chose to pay more on rent so that they dont live among Indians and Pakistanis. I dont understand why though. |
| ivanlim84 |
| Racism is everywhere if you are out of your country. Just live with it or else find a place you are comfortable and dun come out so that you won't face any racism problem. I would not say there are no racism in Dubai but it happens because there are a few bad seeds here and try not to generalize everybody as racist. You would live a better life in Dubai. |
| Dubai Knight |
The locals may seem nice and respectful, however there is a built in prejudice to anyone who is not 'local'. They see others with a pecking order based not on who they are, but entirely where they come from and how they were educated. If you are white, blue eyed, Anglo Saxon I am afraid there is more respect than if you are Asian or dark skinned. Sorry, but its a fact of life here. :( :( :( Knight |
| Red Chief |
:) |
| Electro |
| this thread is kinda making me feel worry.. :( |
| compevo |
| I've heard different stories about Dubai, I think people are quick to put it down more than places that have extreme hate and racism. It sounds like there is some discrimination in Dubai, but it won't get you killed. In some of the most democratic countries, racist and extreme rules have and are still in power, and hate groups which kill minorities operate with impunity. I don't believe there is that kind of hate in Dubai and that is a good thing. I know that many places are portrayed in a bad light, but whenever I travel I usually find things are different than what I read in the news or saw on TV, in a good way. Keep in mind I haven't been to Dubai but this is my perspective and I'll probably find out more when I visit next year. |
| Morgan |
| In this region..when you look for cheap labor..you look at Pakistan ,Bengladesh, India. When you interact with them...most are illeterate and idiots,and unaware. So they dont demand respect, nor much pay. thats how those communities in general have become the victims. As far as Arabs go, they are racists among themselves. In general the Arab/sub continent culture simply lends itself to proclaiming pride in one's heritage. its an ancient tradition. The region still suffers from it..and we se the modern symptoms today |
| ArchitectRoel |
@bold Very true! In fact an Indian/Pak/Filipino Engineer have lower salary than an Arab Draftsman.It's not fair and I hope UAE will implement a better minimum wage law. :cry: |
| Dubai Knight |
No, they won't. The ultimate minimum wage for an Arab employing anyone is...0! They will squeeze a price until the pips squeak and even then try to get a deal. Then they wonder why they get shoddy work and crap materials? Lets see how many of their glittering crystal castles in the air are still standing in 10 years shall we? :( :( :( Knight |
| nosoup4u |
Hahah Knight, ya hit the nail right on the head! Was just wonderin' the same thing. With water pipes bursting, sewage plants over flowing, bridges falling, buildings catching fire, workers being kept in inhumane conditions, americans and britishers gettin' better treatment, etc etc I'm an American, it really feels wrong that I can get something done quicker or get better service than say an Indian/Philippines/Pakistani fella/lady. With laws changing as often as I change my pants, when will they learn? Dubai is a new upcoming city, with plannin' down the drains, except when we get a few rain drops and 'em drains overflow and cause people to go insane and drive like maniacs! :P Ah well.. lets move on eh? |
| Humbleman |
| Very interesting thread I am original from the Gulf myself. I decided to immigrate to a Western country sometime ago just to see what’s the life looks like in the another part of the world. Message going to be a bit long, but it will be educational once you’ve read it, because what am about to tell you is based on my true experience. As grew up I unconsciously inherited an attitude/belief which was prevalent amongst local people at that time, that, Indians and other workers (unskilled workers) who come from undeveloped countries were ought to be less intelligent, sophisticated, and educated. Yes it’s true, sadly and regrettably I did at some stages look down at those people. It wasn’t as I hated or wanted to harm them, I just thought at that time it was a normal way to do so. It was a paradox, because Islam is strictly emphasized in equality between all people, regardless of their gender, race, colour, wealth etc - all people must be treated fairly and respectfully. Looking at it now, I fully understand why I did behave in such a manner toward that people. I put down to few reasons: The first reason was that, I wasn’t aware that my manner was condescending and hurtful to those people, and I squarely blame on the fact that at school there was no education on human right or knowledge on what constitute prejudice or racism. The funny thing was that, my school itself had students from all colours, you name it, white, black, brown, olive skin etc, however because we were local we therefore saw no one better than another, we were just like one. Second reason which probably still exist to this date is that, local people would more likely to look for a skill worker from a Western country because their countries can vouch for them. For example, most Western countries have the best designed road, bridges, work ethic ext, you might argue that this isn’t always the case, well am afraid that’s the reception, and let’s be fair to say these folks have good education systems, good governments and good law, so lets give them credit for that. So that’s why they would be given critical and important jobs. Compare that with the perception that local people have about India or Africa countries, in which it would be that, corruptions is a norm and a way of life in India or Africa countries. The reason that they would think so is not because they hate or dislike Indian or African people, but because when they look at these countries see them in a bad shape, whether economically or in the way that their citizens lives. Their confidence of choosing a skill worker from their would be more likely to be less enthusiastic, unlike of they would choose a worker from a Western country. I cannot emphasize enough on how important education is to eliminate or at least reduce prejudices and racism. I never understood how condescending and prejudice I was till I started my degree, and then I realized that I was prejudice in some of my behaviours especially toward non-local people without me knowing that it was wrong. I remember my dad was very gracious toward a driver who used to take us to school, he cares about him so much, and he even would reprimand me and my brother if we would say something that would upset him. I remember he even wouldn’t trust me or my brother to do a weekly fruit shopping, he only would trust that guy. The moral of this story is that, people whether in the UAE or other gulf countries are not racist. Some people in there might do something out of ignorance, believe me. But then again, isn’t it that prejudice is an inseparable part of human species. Don’t you think we somehow practice prejudice on daily basis whether by making a quick impression about someone or even by thinking that our country or culture is the best. Think about it. I live in a Western country, and I see prejudice everywhere, usually by those who are ignorant and less educated. Personally, I see all humans are the same, I do realize though that people are different in term of skills, educations, cultures, and there is nothing wrong if someone gets a high salary because he/she highly qualifies for it, but what I do think is wrong is that when someone gets judged just because of his/her culture or colour. We all human beings and therefore we ought be respected and treated fairly. In term of citizenship, you have to understand that Western countries need more population, and they are very selective of whom they granted a citizenship – and that’s their prerogative. In other countries like China or in Israel where have to be a Jewish in order to be a citizen. So why the blame, it is the UAE’s prerogative to grant a citizenship to a person if it sees that person qualifies or would be a benefit its future. Final message, please don’t put up with racism or prejudice even if it comes from your won brother or sister. Peace/love |
| Chocoholic |
| Humbleman, I have to say what a fantastic post! Very inspirational. I wish there were more people like you in the world. |
| project3030 |
| DXB is the land of milk and honey! |
| Humbleman |
| In response to project3030 My human friend “Look at all the unjustified and brutal killings that go on daily in Arab nations such as: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine.” Friend, if you are a compassionate peaceful human being you surely should have an urge to stand up or at least feel sorry for these innocent people. Not dancing of joy over what’s happening to these innocent people whom happened to be Arabs, aren’t Arab human too. “Let them worship white skin and blue eyes while they get kicked around like a soccer ball in front of the world.” See, you are being a racist here and prejudice here. Again, European countries happened to have a good universities, good system, hardly corruption within their governments. Unlike Asian countries, where their governments are corrupt and give it damn about their own peoples’ development and prosperous – so don’t blame others, just blame your own government, and if you are genuinely want to do something, try to run a campaign for better government. I guarantee you once your country have the same standard as Those European countries, thus, you’ll compel other countries to open their doors for you happily. You seem to have a bad experience, my friend, my advice to you is that, forget and forgive, don’t judge a whole race just based on a bad experience or experiences. I lived in the Middle East, and believe me they don’t care about colours. Yes, I must admit that, image, wealth, reputation play large part of their societies, which I don’t approve of. But then again, it is the same case in any others countries, whether in Western countries or in Asian countries. I once went to an Asian country, and I was shock to found that only the strong can survive, the weak live miserable and poor lives or lives in the streets till they die. The region is going through great transformation, and it will take sometime before things get great. So long my friend Peace/love |
| project3030 |
| Humbleman I never said anything like that. All I said was DXB is the land of milk and honey. |
| Bricks |
| its very sad to hear all this keep up the spirit |
| muslimbangladeshi |
| 1 Who would be preferred in Dubai? An Arab Muslim or an English Christian? For example. Who would be preferred? A Chinese Christian or a Bangladeshi Muslim? An African Muslim or an Arab Christian? The above are not intended to flame anyone. It's for judging the place a little better. 2 It's unfair to say only Dubai/Arab residents are racists. Western countries are and have been the worst racist/religion'ist'/fascists and criminals in the history of the world. If you go to Orient, subcontinent, or developing countries, you face the same situation. Third those at the "receiving end" of racism in Dubai, judging from this thread, are themselves hailing from racist places. Look at India or Pakistan (same as Bangladesh). They would take the word of a westerner higher than an Arab. They would often times mock Arabs from the comfort of their place at home or abroad mostly in a Western country In fact, most of the subcontinentals, Filipinos, Orientals, Africans choose a Western country as THE CHOICE destination for education, healthcare, immigration, music, entertainment, politics and any and all things in life. They would not choose to go to Dubai, Saudi Arabia, or rate opinions, statements or versions of history coming out of these places as anything close to what happens in the West. Sadly this is the reality. The countries in question are all racist to some extent. Having established that, I just wonder how much impact does "religion" have in 'favouritism" as mentioned here? |
| Dubai Rose |
| If I have 2 equally qualified persons, one is from the Philippines and the other is from another 3rd world country, but I have to hire only one of them, I will hire the one from the Philippines. That’s not racism. Preferences have nothing to do with racism! I am not from the Philippines, by the way! |
| muslimbangladeshi |
Can I ask why you would prefer the Filipino above all others? |
| Dubai Rose |
Because Filipinos (and Filipinas) are polite, respectful, obedient, speak English even those in low positions, and do indeed work, whether you watch them or not --unlike the others. As a woman boss I get along a lot better with the Filipinos than with the Arabs and the other Asians. Most Arabs and other Asians don’t like to take orders from a woman, plus they sleep on the job when I am not there!! :) |
| bedro |
Sadly true. But u cannot make a rule out of that. In the service industry, philippinos are the best. But that may not apply for other jobs... |
| muslimbangladeshi |
Sounds a tad racist to be honest. Maybe you don't like other employees not 'taking your orders', that can't possibly mean they are less capable in general, just don't like being 'bossed around' by women. |
| busa |
| you tell them muppetman,they should wear burkas and never smile |
| gafoorgk |
it's true. racism is at its peak in arab world. |
| Chocoholic |
| I'd have to agree and say that Filipinos are much better in the service and hospitality industries. They're always cheerful and polite and smiling. I haven't yet met a miserable Filipino, whereas sad to say the majority of people from some Asian countries are just miserable buggers. |
| gafoorgk |
lol, most of the asians also have something like this to say. they consider most of the people from western/european world are idiots without proper information on current affairs and also the information they get is very much controlled. :) don't take it as a retaliation on what you said. i just said what my asian friends say. my west friends have just the opposite to say. |
| waelsalem |
| All what i gotta say is that racism exists in every country and every corner of the world.. the only thing that i would like to mention is that not to generalize like there are many things about diffferent nationalities, but there is always this person or this group of people who i dont like to call exceptions, but will just prove you wrong on your opinion. me myself i hate racism against nationalities, or racial groups... but i gotta say that i have met a few people who fit the sterotype to their respective nationalties. but sadly these few people have made it bad for everyone... |
| gafoorgk |
|
| waelsalem |
Thanks.. |
| muslimbangladeshi |
Unfortunately that only proves the three races of men hierarchy right (to an extent). The Filipinos and other orientals are shorter, weaker, with more body fat, straight hair, no body hair, flat nostrils, slant eyes and shorter limbs. The subcontinentals and Aryans/Caucasians are possessed of longer limbs, less body fat, thick body hair, wavy hair, and more innovative (and also more disobedient). You probably fit the unruly part of the description well. For Africans south of the Sahara desert, there are similar characteristics which I won't mention. |
| Chocoholic |
| OMG - how shallow are you? It has nothing to do with appearance! It has to do with attitude! FYI, the majority of Filipinos certainly aren't fat! Perhaps you've never seen one! Seeing as you don't actually live here! |
| muslimbangladeshi |
You are ignorant. Most orientals, not just Filipinos, are slim.The % of fat in their body is higher than in other races. The attitude is not independent of race, that's the theory. And you support it. |
| gafoorgk |
| mr. bangladeshi, your posts reflect extremism. chocs, as bangladeshi said, u r ignorant. at least your posts here say so. isn't this thread for discussing racism IN dubai ?!!!! |
| muslimbangladeshi |
| gafoorgk brother, what is the 'extremist' part of my post? I dont' mind learning my mistakes from others. |
| gafoorgk |
well, i feel that on every subject here you seem to be talking from a religious pov rather than being specific to the subject. religious practice is completely a personal choice. let's just don't drag it here. i myself is practicing islam and i do respect other religion as it has got nothing to do with personal attitudes. |
| Chocoholic |
But don't you see! That's exactly the problem, Muppetfrombangalore is incapable of seperating his religion from anything else, it encompasses his whole world and he feels that he has the right to enforce that attitude on everyone else. |
| gafoorgk |
let's focus on real subject. :D |
| Mahmoud04 |
| Well well, Choco, MB, I think you have been fighting all over the last 3-4 days all over the forum, almost in every thread, well sometimes I enjoy it, and I wish you guys enjoy it as well, and I learning from you guys as well. Have a nice day every1. M |
| muslimbangladeshi |
Brother, do you agree that in Islam, not everything is a personal choice. It's the same in other systems. Will you enjoy and approve of your children indulging in promiscuous activities since 'religious practice is completely a personal choice.'? I don't mean to be harsh, but you have to understand the insolence and temerity of some of these ignorant nonmuslim foreigners to Muslim countries in display are in gross violation of expectations that they must abide by rules of norms, customs and traditions. Even Muslim scientists used science of navigation and astronomy to determine direction of Qibla. There is Islamic Finance that is booming as we speak and more and more Muslims and nonmuslims are pursuing these banking systems as directed by the Sharia'h. Many more examples are there. The only true way of government and lifestyle is an Islamic one. And we see more and more proof of that every day Alhamdulillah. Ignore chocoholic, she is a major intellectually deficient person who's been deputed the authority of moderation probably because of Western cultural eccentricities that seem illogical to us. I don't hate nonmuslims, there are many nonmuslims in Islamic Republic of Iran today and many nonmuslims lived in Khilafah throughout history. |
| Chocoholic |
| Intellectually deficient! Right! What's your IQ mate? 20? |
| gafoorgk |
ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm out for apparent reasons. |
| Dubai Knight |
MB (does that stand for Mentally Bigoted?) The only true way of government and lifestyle is NOT Islamic! Its YOUR ideal, not 99% of the population. You are advocating Dictatorship. Fine, off you go. Go to the home of Islam, Saudi Arabia, and try that. See you in Chop Chop Square in a few weeks! Your head would look great in the local Mullahs garden as an ornament! Chocs is far from an intellectaully deficient person and has a Brain the size of a planet!. Your qualifications from your home country will probably allow you to collect garbage or sweep the roads in the UAE, what do you think they would qualify you to do in Europe? Jack sh1t! :roll: :roll: :roll: Knight |
| reviewer |
Have you seen Filipinos here in Dubai let alone Middle East, geez ...you're really impotent......come to Dubai and look around.... |
| reviewer |
+ 100, exactly he is one..... 8) |
| muslimbangladeshi |
Notwithstanding the shortcomings of relying solely on one indicator for measuring another person's capabilities, latent talents or intelligence, I can say, Alhamdulillah, I am easily above the 99.99% of the general population in these measures. Now before you start railing against me, would you be kind enough to hear the source of this evaluation? It's from your own country (UK), Mensa International. (Not that I blindly adhere to whatever it has to say, but it may be of interest to you) |
| muslimbangladeshi |
Who is being facetious here? I didn't use MB as my abbreviation. DK, can also be used to delineate you in a negative manner. I desist from these childish games of yours. Given we are living on Earth ( a planet itself), and given Chocoholic is living in Dubai, one must wonder what your knowledge level is to refer to Chocs brain as the size of a planet. Moreover you don't know anything about my qualifications, so I'd suggest you keep your mouth shut on that. Also that is irrelevant to our thread, I am not applying for a job to you or Chocoholic (what could have given you that impression; are you also mentally deficient?). I'd suggest you think about your qualifications and your receding economy while being ACTUALLY LOCATED in your home country. I don't see another Emirati person ranting at me, while all you Westerners had been saying they are racist to me, which they are not. Only you, Choco, and some Westerners (and idiots from India) have made efforts to belittle me in this forum using various indecent methods. Including religious, national, personal, etc insults without knowing anything about my self. |
| muslimbangladeshi |
Are you a filipino? A westerner? Where are you from? Yes I have seen a number of Filipinos, (more than thousands) live and on the media. I'd not delve into the topic of impotency, I am not a Westerner, that's all I'd say here. |
| Chocoholic |
| Because talking to you, is like talking to a brick wall! You don't get it! You'll never get it! It's pointless even talking to you. BY the way I AM a member of Mensa! |
| Dubai Knight |
So the UK is a crap place then? You seem to enjoy shooting it down, but it gives you the ability to use as an itellectual measuring stick... Bite not the hand that feeds! :roll: :roll: :roll: Knight |
| uaekid |
UAE is feeding you DK and your small bezness and you deal with it gov to make money and you are biting it !! oh sorry I forgot you have no principles ,hypocrite. |
| Dubai Knight |
Do you hear me criticizing the government of the UAE? No, I criticise bigoted narrow minded idiots like you. The UAE is also receiving the benefit of my being here...I pay my expat 'taxes' and my trade licence fees...and most of my work comes from outside the UAE, so I am actually contributing positively to the UAE economy. Unlike you. Who are merely able to turn oxygen into carbon dioxide. :roll: :roll: :roll: Knight |
| reviewer |
How could you when you're already impotent in your thinking.......your pathetic.... 8) |